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Hey, Brits....

Dec 8, 2010 11:14PM PST

Do you know what a college education costs in America? Time to get real. TANSTAAFL.

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I see you've been reading Dale Carnegie again
Dec 8, 2010 11:56PM PST

Was this a spontaneous outburst... or is it actually related to something ?

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Have you checked...
Dec 9, 2010 12:10AM PST

Have you checked the news today? There are massive demonstrations going on over there.

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No, I hadn't seen it.
Dec 9, 2010 12:24AM PST

Isn't it rather difficult to get admitted into college, in Britain?

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And those demonstrations have been going on for weeks
Dec 9, 2010 12:26AM PST

I'm not defending any of the violence, but they have every right to be frustrated and angry.

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Because they are ignorant...
Dec 9, 2010 12:32AM PST

of how things work. These are the fruits of socialism. More to come in future.

Yeah, they gave every right to stamp their little foot and throw a tantrum. And I have every right to point out how foolish they are.

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One of the things they're chanting....
Dec 9, 2010 1:58AM PST

"Education is not for sale!"

How stupid. It's a thing of value. Of course it's for sale. They're fighting over the price!


Makes me wonder just how good the education is.

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In their country it ISN'T for sale
Dec 9, 2010 3:13AM PST

It's socialized, regardless of your opinion of that.

They could just as easily be calling us stupid for paying so much in tuition at our private colleges. It's called a cultural difference, Ed.

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Wow! You really don't get it at all!
Dec 9, 2010 4:19AM PST

Of course it's for sale, and now they are going crazy over the price, But it was never free. Nothing is free, "socialized" or not.

I don't think rioting and burning down the country is a cultural difference. What it's called is stupidity.

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Or, as one Brit is reputed to have said...
Dec 9, 2010 4:33AM PST

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."-- Margaret Thatcher

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eventually you run out of other people's money
Dec 9, 2010 5:42AM PST

Then you get some from the Chinese,

Oh wait...they are the other people's money

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Got a link to your story?
Dec 9, 2010 2:25AM PST

just so we know what you're talking about.

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Yep.
Dec 9, 2010 4:33AM PST

Nice one Yank.

You're right. Since the early 90's university student population in the UK has risen 10-fold.

University education has never been free here, students or parents have always had to contribute if they could afford it, and spending on university grants per student has fallen over the last 10 years, but the cost of student education here has rocketed.

Link for JP;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11954333 about today's demonstratons.

I don't think "burning down the country" quite covers it, but that's media coverage for you.

You never had student protests in the US?

Mark

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I am reminded of all the times Americans on this forum...
Dec 9, 2010 9:00AM PST

... have told people from Canada, Britain, et al.... that they had no perspective, let alone the actual right, to comment about US politics, health care, education, etc. etc. etc.

Pot... meet Mr Kettle.

Grin

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Ohh I don't mind at all.
Dec 9, 2010 7:16PM PST

We have our fair share of idiot politicians and politics, so it's all fuel for the fire.

Mark

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You didn't get his slam?
Dec 9, 2010 8:24PM PST

Bogus as usual of course, but S.O.P.

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LOL, BRAVO!!!
Dec 9, 2010 11:09PM PST

That one's gonna hurt, LOL.

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Cheering a fabrication?
Dec 10, 2010 12:18AM PST

Siiighh! Show me one example of anyone saying, someone form another country didn't have "the actual right, to comment about US politics, health care, education, etc. etc. etc."

It's hogwash.

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Will you accept some one paraphrasing
Dec 10, 2010 12:32AM PST
"the actual right, to comment about US politics, health care, education, etc. etc. etc.

or does it have to be those exact words?

Before I go looking
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Ed
Dec 10, 2010 12:53AM PST
have told people from Canada, Britain, et al.... that they had no perspective, let alone the actual right, to comment about US politics, health care, education, etc. etc. etc.

In sentences like these you give a lesser example of something first, followed by "let alone" and then the greater example.

LET ALONE

Of course, You focus on the greater example.
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No, I don't think anyone ever used the word "right"
Dec 10, 2010 2:11AM PST

But I can recall plenty of posts telling non-Americans that their opinions are meaningless because they don't live here.

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So show me some...
Dec 10, 2010 2:52AM PST

Grim DID mention "right" in his troll. But let's see what you come up with. "I can recall" doesn't mean squat and in any event this whole thing thing is not germane to the topic.

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Furthermore...
Dec 10, 2010 3:18AM PST

Don't you think it's a bit odd that certain people from other countries spend so much time here criticizing American politicians, laws, etc.? Isn't it unseemly when they campaign for certain candidates in OUR elections; sometimes spreading propaganda and lies? We even have one who does it all the time in the most disgusting terms. He recently FALSELY accused a candidate for the Senate of exposing his genitals in a magazine. Should no one object to that?

And quite often they get it wrong. People have claimed, for instance that we have had a GOP government, when the House and Senate were Democrats, thinking that the party of President controls the government. So I think it's justified to point out at they don't comprehend how the US works so maybe should refrain from commenting on things they don't understand.

Gee, Josh, you never give them a hard time, do you?

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(NT) I don't lie.
Dec 10, 2010 4:58AM PST
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(NT) Didn't say you did.
Dec 10, 2010 5:17AM PST
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aww shucks! yu dun did it again
Dec 10, 2010 12:44PM PST

am i the only one who noticed?

you use massive 'blanket' statements and then cry 'foul' when
called on it!

i agree Ed, you did NOT say "Mark Flax, you lie"

but you DID say "certain people from other countries...spreading...lies"

Mark is from 'another' country etc etc etc.....


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I clearly did NOT mean...
Dec 10, 2010 8:45PM PST

everyone from another country was spreading lies. You know that, I know it and I am sure Mark knows it.

Troll away, "Mod."

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Am I the only one who noticed?
Dec 10, 2010 9:29PM PST

What does certain people mean? See the word "CERTAIN"? Not a "massive blanket statement " at all.

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(NT) Then name names, Ed
Dec 10, 2010 10:00PM PST
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Why, Josh?
Dec 10, 2010 10:15PM PST

It would probably be a TOS violation, and I think the observant already know whom I am referring to.

Point is, I am telling the truth.

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What does...
Dec 10, 2010 9:37PM PST
SOMETIMES mean?

"... sometimes spreading propaganda and lies"

You can make it seem like someone said something simply by misquoting him. It's not honest, is it?