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Herpes. 50% of all Black Women have it.

by James Denison / August 22, 2011 12:47 AM PDT
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That is over a year old
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / August 22, 2011 3:25 AM PDT

Why raise the issue now?


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Nothing's changed since then, and
by James Denison / August 22, 2011 9:14 AM PDT

I don't remember a thread on it before. Do you? Anyway, it was a current link on a page I hit today, so didn't realize it was a year old, but it's still current too since the condition continues. You know, Bush is an old story, certainly more than a year ago, yet I keep hearing about him over and over again on these forums.

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Good analogy, James!
by Josh K / August 22, 2011 10:40 PM PDT

Bush and herpes -- two gifts that just keep on giving even after the gift-giver has gone away. Hopefully, unlike genital herpes, the damage Bush did to our economy can be cured.

Question: if someone has herpes should they stop blaming the person who gave it to them if that person isn't around anymore?


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Question, Josh...
by J. Vega / August 23, 2011 12:46 AM PDT
In reply to: Good analogy, James!

Josh, if somebody had posted your first sentence with Obama where you said Bush, what would you think of that tactic?

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If Obama had been presiding...
by Josh K / August 23, 2011 1:32 AM PDT
In reply to: Question, Josh...

.....when most of the world's economy crashed due to abuses made easier by deregulatory policies he supported, I'd say the exact same thing.

George W. Bush did to America what Led Zeppelin used to do to hotel rooms, and while it's still the hotel's job to clean it up, they didn't make the mess and saying "Well, they've left town so stop talking about them" doesn't hold water.

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Josh, are you saying...
by J. Vega / August 23, 2011 1:46 AM PDT
In reply to: Question, Josh...

Josh, are you saying that comparing any politician to genital herpes is an acceptable thing to do, if you dislike them?

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James analogized them first
by Josh K / August 23, 2011 1:47 AM PDT

Perhaps you can ask him. I merely applauded the analogy. Wink

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No, he didn't, Josh...
by J. Vega / August 23, 2011 2:14 AM PDT

He did not Josh, he was talking about posting references old stories. You went from age of stories posted to an attempt to compare a particular politician with herpes. To me, that looked like a degradation of the thread.

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by Josh K / August 23, 2011 3:34 AM PDT
In reply to: No, he didn't, Josh...

....of a thread with a misleading title from a poster with a history of anti-black comments and slurs? Okee dokee.

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That report is a misquote of the facts.
by snapshot2 Forum moderator / August 22, 2011 4:25 AM PDT

What's that old expression?
"Figures don't lie but liars figure."

That link you reference is another case of someone mis-reporting a study.

I have another link for you and here is what it says:

"This means that they have been exposed to the herpes virus, but it does not mean that these women have actually developed the disease or have active herpes. In fact, they may never develop active herpes."



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According to CDC, that's an "infection rate"
by James Denison / August 22, 2011 9:17 AM PDT

Now, it might not be showing at all times, but "infected" means ya got it!


About 16 percent of
Americans between the ages of 14 and 49 are infected with
genital herpes, making it one of the most common sexually
transmitted diseases, U.S. health officials said on Tuesday. Black women had the highest rate of infection at 48 percent
and women were nearly twice likely as men to be infected,
according to an analysis by the U.S. Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention. About 21 percent of women were infected with genital
herpes, compared to only 11.5 percent of men, while 39 percent
of blacks were infected compared to about 12 percent for
whites, the CDC said.

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I can't agree that the report is a misquote ...
by Bill Osler / August 23, 2011 2:52 AM PDT

Whatever the flaws of the methodology, the report did not misrepresent the findings. Also, in the article you referenced, the critics themselves were the ones who misrepresented the methodology of the study. For example, one of the critics complained about studies on STDs that sample patients at STD clinics. That may be a valid complaint, but it is completely irrelevant to the NHANES study that produced the statistics quoted in the OP.

The study does not show that ~50% of African-American women have active Herpes (HSV) NOR does it show that ~50% of these women ever had active/symptomatic disease, but it does show that they have been exposed to HSV at a rate significantly higher than the other groups sampled. Also, since antibodies develop in response to an infection, the results suggest that a large proportion of African-American women have been infected with HSV. What proportion of these women have episodes of clinical disease is unclear, but it is safe to assume that clinical disease would be significantly more frequent in these women than in the other groups studied since the exposure rate is so much higher.

I don't know what national statistics look like, but these study results are consistent with my own observation that African American patients tend to become sexually active at younger age than other groups and that they tend to have more partners. Thus it is not surprising they would have a higher rate of STD exposure/infection.

Unfortunately, it appears that other social groups are heading down the same path. My impression is that the overall prevalence of promiscuous sexual behavior is increasing in most demographic groups.

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(NT) Black men probably gave it to them
by Diana Forum moderator / August 22, 2011 4:31 AM PDT
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And I suppose white folks suffer more
by Steven Haninger / August 22, 2011 7:21 PM PDT

from sunburn though black folks are not immune. As for STDs, predisposition might be a factor but proliferation of them is more a matter of attitude than genetics. And any curative measures would need to be applied across racial boundaries to be most effective. If you have active noxious weed growth in one part of your yard, you look beyond that area if you plan to eradicate them completely.

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