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Here's someone who likes the Health Care bill...

Mar 25, 2010 10:48PM PDT
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cuban-leader-applauds-US-apf-124808403.html?x=0&.v=1

HAVANA (AP) -- It perhaps was not the endorsement President Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress were looking for.

Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro on Thursday declared passage of American health care reform "a miracle" and a major victory for Obama's presidency, but couldn't help chide the United States for taking so long to enact what communist Cuba achieved decades ago.
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Don't worry, Fidel, other Cuban features may be following soon... crackdowns on the press, redistribution of wealth, state ownership of all business, prison for political dissidents, universal poverty, etc.

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Here are a couple more endorsements.
Mar 25, 2010 11:39PM PDT
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AARP? AARP thinks it can ignore its members. It thinks
Mar 25, 2010 11:47PM PDT

it can tell people what they think. Not any more!

AMA? What do the doctors think? Do you think they are applauding a 20% cut in their reimbursement? The doctors I am dealing with are not applauding. They say there will be fewer and fewer doctors who will treat medicare patients. They hope they can finish their careers before the job simply does not pay anymore, but wonder who will care for them in their elderly years.

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RE:They say there will be fewer and fewer doctors
Mar 25, 2010 11:54PM PDT

They say there will be fewer and fewer doctors who will treat medicare patients.

IF your doctor spend less time with idle banter and more time looking after the patient/client he could make an extra 20% now.

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(NT) A "Harry and Louise" tactic.
Mar 26, 2010 12:07AM PDT
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Meaning what?
Mar 26, 2010 12:20AM PDT

Is the solution "work harder?" That will really go over well.

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The last time there was a move to
Mar 26, 2010 12:34AM PDT

......... reform health care, TV ads starring "Harry and Louise" abounded.

The focus was, "Do you want the government taking over your medicne cabinet>" and the couple spent a lot of time around their kitchen table expressing their fears.

Of course, the government DID get in their medicine cabinet with medicare part F which was heralded as wonderful (though unfunded).

So Harry and Louis did a good job of scaring the public. So now a wrinkle on that scare tactic is that there will not be enough doctors to take care of us. Of course, reason says that there will be a segment that will not see medicare patients, just as there are those now that will not see Medicaid patients Ad there are a few in my area that uit accepting medicare patients seeral years ago.

Angelne

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So you don't believe that many doctors...
Mar 26, 2010 12:43AM PDT

will just fold up their practices, in spite of he fact that's what they have said?

More patients, fewer doctors....

Any information you don't like is a "scare tactic" it seems.

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You always have to spoil your comments with ...
Mar 26, 2010 1:06AM PDT

...... what you hope is a barb. Sad

But as you admire those who make their living shooting arrows, I reckon it is to be expected. A darned shame, though, as you have the talent to express yourself and present your views well, otherwise.

Angeline

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I must remember to ask...
Mar 26, 2010 1:30AM PDT

About a week or so ago I got a visit from the parents of the 3 kids who lived across the street when I was young. One of the boys was my best friend. He got into computers, but both his brother and sister became doctors. In that visit, their parents mentioned that if the health care bill passed, both of them said that would seriously consider getting out of that line of work. I must remember ask what happened.
BTW, a close relative is a surgeon, but is retired. We have talked about that bill, and he hates it in no uncertain terms.

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REwould seriously consider getting out of that line of work.
Mar 26, 2010 1:49AM PDT
Less doctors, more Medical offices?

Some parts of the health-care overhaul, such as the prospect of a new tax on rental income, have raised concerns among landlords. But some real-estate developers see a silver lining: the prospect that 32 million additional people with health insurance will drive new demand for medical office space.

In New York, health-care real-estate broker Paul Wexler of Corcoran Group says he is seeing increased interest in medical office space in areas where many currently uninsured people live. "There will be a need for medical providers to be in these areas where people now go to emergency rooms or go to .
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What the heck are you talking about?
Mar 26, 2010 1:47AM PDT

What "barb"?

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I recall a joke about a merchant who sells his wares
Mar 26, 2010 12:20AM PDT

below cost and, when asked how he can stay in business, responds with something like,

"I might lose money on each sale but I make it up on volume".

Makes perfect economic sense. Wink

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It has provided information in its
Mar 26, 2010 12:05AM PDT

...... publications, from the get-go, and helped members to contact their Congressmen I considered the information reliable. I believe the group os very well aware of all aspects of the laws and concluded it is in the Best interest of us old folks.

The Medicare Part D was not funded when it was passed, account for some of the cost.

Angeline

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So what
Mar 26, 2010 1:39AM PDT

That maybe true, Cubans have a very good health care plan. So they live longer to piss&moan about the things they don't have for just as long. If that link was somehow to discredit what the newly passed health care measure/bill was about, then how come that sooner or later developed countries accept this form of health care. Why, because in the long run far more people benefit and costs stay reduced far longer if not.

Modern US supplied health costs are taking 20-25% of pay in order to have it. It does matter who pays(largest chunk) for it but eventfully it comes to that figure, whether it be union, co-pay, company, self or federal supplied it roughly ends at that percentage. basically, what alot of people are thinking or want to, its gotten to be too much of a burden, relief please. All this before its even used, thus someone is making fists full of money. -----Willy Happy

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Fist full of money...
Mar 26, 2010 2:01AM PDT

I saw an interesting interview on a business show with the head of Zoll Medical. They make things like heart pumps and defibrillators. They were talking about Obama's new tax on medical devices. He said that the new tax would cost his company 7.5 million dollars a year. The problem is that last year their profit was 9 million dollars.
It makes me wonder, thinking in a purely business/profit line, might they make more profit return on their dollar in the future if they just liquidated the company and invested the money? I invested in a stock, and get about a 5% return with the dividends.