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Here is my setup for the network, and which pc is

Jul 30, 2004 5:50AM PDT

Right now, I am disconnected from the router. Let me tell you the way it was BEFORE I messed up the router connection:
Cable modem to router. New, upstairs, pc to router, downstairs pc also to router, from cable running alongside the house. At the time, I could only get online through the upstairs computer. I could see each computer's shared files, but could not ACCESS the upstairs' files from the downstairs. The downstairs computer almost logged on, but then froze and the connection was lost. The taskbar said that the router was connected, and the router icon light was green, and the "port magic" software was connected. Then, after our discussion about ipconfig/all, I noticed that there was a line that asked if the router configured the ip address, and on both of the 2 lines, it said "no." So I got to thinking (my first mistake!) that maybe my brother-in-law had not really completed the router configuration (language barriers with him) and that I was logged on through cable, but bypassing the router, if it hadn't configured the ip address. So I tried to run the port magic configuration wizard again, but got stuck when I realized it was prompting me for numbers I didn't have (it was asking me to check with my ISP for the numbers). So I tried to get out of it and get back online, but by now I had somehow messed something up and couldn't even log on at all. Even after trying to reboot the modem and router, my router was listed as "unavailable" and the router icon on the taskbar was and still is a little red hat. So I plugged my upstairs computer (the one I am on now) directly back into the cable modem and got back online so I could register with the Netgear company to call tech support for the router. So all along, the only computer I have been able to get online with, one way or another, is the upstairs computer. When I called Netgear tech support, the guy had me start plugging the computer back into the router, into each of the ports, and trying to get those IP addresses. Now here's where I was getting 169's and zeros on the upstairs computer, but the downstairs computer was coming up with 192 IP's. So I plugged the upstairs computer back into the cable modem, and here I am. Whenever I try to connect the router, I am unable at this point to clear out whatever I did to lose the "green hat" icon and only have a red disconnect icon. I have never been able to get online downstairs; the only thing that is "working" there, is that since we've been testing IP addresses, that one is coming up with the correct numbers. Given that I am online now, through the cable modem, without a router, leads me to believe that my cable is fine. My brother-in-law had tested the cables before he left the other day and confirmed 100mbps on each of them. I am getting 172 IP addresses now upstairs while I am online. It is a question of why, with this computer, I am suddenly unable to get normal-looking IP addresses, and why I am unable now (where I had been able before) to get the router to "connected" status on the taskbar. Hopefully, Sunday morning, my brother-in-law (more of an electrician than a computer tech) is coming to check the connections for me again, and figure out what if anything I messed up. If you have any suggestions for us between now and then that will lead us to what to look for, that would be great... if not, perhaps I'd have more answers for you after he checks things at my end. He was unable to complete this set-up, though, so we may be back to square one, which would at least be better than after I messed it up.
Sorry it's so long, but maybe now you get the full picture.

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Re: Here is my setup for the network, and which pc is
Jul 31, 2004 12:57AM PDT

Ok first what connection do u have. and what os
XP:
For Cable:
Start
Control Panel
Network Connections
Right Click on Your router or bridge
Click properties
under the general tab look for "This connection uses the following"
Select Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
Click properties
make sure that the IP and DNS addresses are obtained automatically

I will wait until u giv me further info on ur comp to give u more help as this takes a while to type

-kpsrza

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Re: Here is my setup for the network, and which pc is
Jul 31, 2004 3:00PM PDT

I have AOL Broadband with Cable internet, Windows XP home, and yes I have detection set automatically.

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And here is my setup for my network.
Jul 31, 2004 2:04AM PDT

I can't fix your setup. It's not something I would wire up. Here's mine.

Cable/DSL modem to Linksys Router. All PCs go to the Linksys router and are set to obtain an address automatically.

You'll want about 2 times the machine count in the router as to number of machines to hand out IPs. A common gaffe is to set this to exactly the count of PCs.

I can't help you configure your router for your ISP, since I'd seen over 100 variations, but that's the first step.

Best of luck in your new LAN.

Bob

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Re: Here is my setup for the network, and which pc is
Jul 31, 2004 2:32AM PDT

Compaq/HP computer? I had the same kind of problem when I set up my NETGEAR router. What kind of network cards do you have? Who is your ISP?
Steps I would follow:
1 unplug everything
2 setup each computer individually according to manual
You should not have this many issues.
I am a tech and work on a help desk. Many times users dont complete a step because they assume they have or dont need to do. Take it nice and easy! One at a time
Last add: I have COX they allow up to 4 computers. Some ISP's may not.

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Re: Here is my setup for the network, and which pc is
Jul 31, 2004 3:04PM PDT

I have an eMachines T3092 computer, and my network card is from nvidia nforce. Windows XP home, AOL broadband with cable internet.

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Re: Here is my setup for the network, and which pc is
Jul 31, 2004 3:49PM PDT

I could be wrong, but I don't think that Nvidia makes NIC cards. Sounds as if that may be you video card, as that is what Nvidia is best known to make.
If you have access to an internet connection, you can Google search for Aida32. Download this small program (free), then double click on it to run.
I will list all the hardware installed on your machine.
Good Luck

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Re: Nvidia NIC card?
Jul 31, 2004 3:50PM PDT

I could be wrong, but I don't think that Nvidia makes NIC cards. Sounds as if that may be you video card, as that is what Nvidia is best known to make.
If you have access to an internet connection, you can Google search for Aida32. Download this small program (free), then double click on it to run.
I will list all the hardware installed on your machine.
Good Luck

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(NT) (NT) Re: I'm sorry for the double post.
Jul 31, 2004 3:53PM PDT
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Re: Here is my setup for the network, and which pc is
Aug 5, 2004 7:56AM PDT

Arrived late:
Internet access Cable to Modem ->
Modem to Router ->
Router to PC's.
Re-set Router to factory specs.

Then:
Configure router as gateway/ look also for firewall settings to allow IP Range or IP address of network computers. Should be 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.1xx
(xx= the number of computers you have networked.
I know that these are vauge instructions but I do not have the manual. Key words to look for is "Gateway" and "Firewall" in the manual. (shades of AOL)

Open Zone Alarm Control Panel, Open Firewall Tab.
Bottom right click on "Add" -> click on "IP Range" ->
Type in IP address assigned to your systems. Again should be 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.102 as your network consists of two computers. Name this connection Network or Something -> click apply.

Do not use Internet sharing set up. This requires one system to have 2 NIC cards installed and always be on to access the Internet.

This is not the securest type of connection as each system has to be hardened against attacks.

Also see: http://www.homenethelp.com/home-network.asp
http://handsonhowto.com/lan101.html

and if you really want to get confused:
http://www.pc-help.org/obscure.htm


Luck, Bill in Zhills