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HELP! Which Graphics Card

by rmohal1 / May 16, 2006 9:14 AM PDT

I am in a bind, i just ordered a Geforce 6800GS $228 CDN and now I see a All-in-Wonder X800XL for $170. Should I return my card and get the X800XL, or is the 6800GS a better buy even at the higher price???

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More details on GeForce?
by Scott Simontis / May 16, 2006 11:49 AM PDT

I see a lot of GeForce cards that match the description, could you provide the exact model number? Here are some stats on the ATI though, from newegg.

Memory Clock: 1000 MHz
256MB DDR3 memory
DX9, OpenGL 2.0 support
500MHz Core Clock
16 pipelines

The X800 also has a built in TV tuner, if that is of any interest to you. If you provide me the manufacturer or the model number of your GF card, I can look up some specs for that too.

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Re: More details on Geforce
by rmohal1 / May 16, 2006 12:10 PM PDT
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Keep the 6800GS...
by nathanpsz2 / May 16, 2006 10:36 PM PDT

...because it has SM3.0, whereas the X800 only has SM2.0. Also, you can unlock the 6800GS from 12 to 16 pixel pipelines for increased performance.

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all-in-wonder x800xl
by ramarc / May 16, 2006 11:09 PM PDT

i'd get the all-in-wonder x800xl since it's comparable in speed to the geforce 6800gs AND it has the media center features (record/pause tv, etc.)

just make sure you don't have to pay a restocking fee.

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Is the X800XL more powerful???
by rmohal1 / May 17, 2006 9:23 AM PDT
In reply to: all-in-wonder x800xl

I've read on the ATI website the the AIW X800XL has a clock speed of 500Mhz, but the Geforce has 400 Mhz, would this affect the performance?? Also, how is the AIW X800XL for overclocking, unlocking pipes???

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stock x800xl is faster than a stock 6800gs
by ramarc / May 17, 2006 1:01 PM PDT

here are benchmarks comparing both.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=313&model2=288&chart=95

x800xls have little overclocking headroom and already have their full pipelines. 6800gs are known to OC well and can be modded to unlock the disabled pipes.

still, the tv/media features of the a-i-w and the lower price would be the clincher for me.

as for sm3 features like HDR, i don't think they should be enabled on mid-range cards at medium to high resolutions. here are benchmarks for oblivion that show the x800xl outperforming the 6800gs using bloom rendering.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2746&p=7

with HDR enabled (the preceding page of that article), the 6800gs framerates drop from 63fps down to 20fps making the game unplayable. HDR is really only practical with radeon x1800+ or geforce 7800+ GPUs.

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