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Hello everyone. Im not a geek, but I can tell my laptop from a toaster. I am looking to buy a new PC since my Gateway laptop has broken down (and was a real bad experience in the 2 yrs I owned it), it has to be a laptop since im going to Rome for 3 months soon.

Price limit: $1,800 credit card
Uses: mostly regular student uses, music, and most importantly gaming (not like solitaire or pacman for the oldtimers out there, but it doesnt have to be DOOM 3 at its best - just as much as possible for the money)

I originally wanted to get a Pentium M, but have realized that it only goes up to about 2Ghz (very xpensive), and thought that a P4 at about 3Ghz would be much better for gaming, but on these forums laptops with M seem to be recommended. Why is that? I tried an M at 1.6Ghz on a dell notebook and it started crashing on games my old notebook ran w/o problems. So should I go with P4 or PM ???

Anyway I have stopped on these 2 from, please give me your opinions and advises:

HP zd8000 @ 1,748.99 (plus $50 mail-in)

Windows XP Home
P4 640 w/HT @ 3.2Ghz
17" WSXGA+ Brightview Wide (1680x1050)
1.0GB DDR2 SDRAM, 522Mhz
60GB 5400 RPM (could upgrade it anytime, am I right?)
DVD +/-RW/R & CD-RW combo w/double layer
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon X600
2-year warranty

or Compaq x6000 with all same stats except a 4200RPM HD instead of 5400 and right now has a FREE Upgrade to 54g(TM) 802.11b/g WLAN w/ 125HSM for only $1,673.99 (plus $50 mail-in). Since it is cheaper I could upgrade some features to max out my card like LightScribe 8x DVD+/-RW & CD-RW Combo Drive or bigger HD.

What do you think? Are those good choices? If yes, which is a better laptop company HP or Compaq (I am more partial to HP for some reason)? If not, what would you recommend in my price range? And whats with Pentium M being good for gaming?

I thank everybody for reading this long and boring post and helping me out in advance. Thx again.

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In reply to: HELP NEEDED

Probably the gfx card. The X600 is not that good either. You might want to look at dell 9300 for the 6800go. If you want a heavy and hot notebook, desktop replacement, than go for the zd8000, the x600 is better than my x300se, which is still pretty good.

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Is Pentium M @ 2Ghz better for gaming than P4 at 3.2? It sure is more expensive. Or is the graphics card the only thing that matters? Like I said i tried a 1.6Ghz pentium M laptop from Dell and it crashed on games i ran w/o problems on my old 2Ghz P4 Gateway with a crappy factory installed video card.

Thx for reply

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In reply to: video card or processor?

The 2.0Ghz Pentium M is equal to around a 4.0Ghz P4. Your 1.6Ghz Pentium M is equal to your 3.2Ghz P4. As for why it crashed, maybe overheat issues, or really bad gfx. You gateway had a separate gfx card, which is always better than the integrated most likely in your notebook. So maybe that's why it crashed. Basically nowadays, the gfx card is the most important. A 1.8Ghz P4 or equivalent, is all that's needed for half-life 2, bf2, doom3,etc...

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I understand, thank you for the valuable info.

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