this really proves your lack of general knowledge
nVidia nForce4 is a chipset
just like Intel's 925XE for Socket T
in fact the nForce4 Ultra is the AMD S939 equivalent to the 925XE
i was expecting fourm goers here to understand that i was meaning nVidia nForce4 meant the board chipset because:
A) nVidia does not produce CPU's
B) nVidia does not produce their own PCB/own their own OEM
which means it can only be a chip
it's not graphics
as their graphics line is clearly called GeForce
and GeForce is incapable of controlling a motherboard
which would leave a motherboard's chipset
Asus, Gigabyte and MSI are OEM manufactuers
as to those benchmarks
i guess i misread the Pentium IV 5 vs 6
not like it matters
when you consider that the P4 EE 3.73 is averaging like the Athlon64 3500+
now which is the better CPU john?
i'm going to say that the $275 3500+ which is, utterly, killing the Pentium IV EE 3.73 which isn't out yet, and will retial for...how much was it? $1000? $1100? $1200?
making it what? 3? 4 times as much money?
for 2 or 3% LESS power?
i still fail to see your logic on anything john
you are anti ATi, and anti AMD
just because nVidia and Intel have produced good products in other generations (NV40 and Pentium III are my examples) doesn't mean their kings in current past generations
i know that's a little weird
let me re-phrase
just because Intel used to be good, doesn't make them good now
their getting whipped
same goes for nVidia's NV3x line against's ATi's R3xx line
can't you accept that Intel and nVidia aren't the best?
you seem to find anything you can, just to tear AMD and ATi down...
you make me want to buy ATi products
just to piss you off
as to the OpenGL benchmarks which i'm sure your to gripe about
my personal favorite, the Athlon64 3800+ is still taking names
it loses in woflenstien
by about 1 FPS
now let's consider this again
i know this is really super hard math to compute
you take the Athlon64 3800+, which is $355
still with me?
now you take the Pentium IV EE 3.73, which is unreleased and the guessed MSRP based on past EE series chips on release is $1100 (in the range of)
still with me?
now we subtract $355 (hell, make it $390, over price the chip to give the PIV some advantage)
let's take $390 from $1100
that is $710
now what in hell would possess someone to pay $710 for a 1FPS increase in 1 game, and 2-4FPS drop in every other game, not to mention a roughly 8 FPS drop in Half-Life 2?
by your logic it works though
we spend more money than we should on a gfx card
so then we waste yet more money on the CPU
so while we are at it
let's buy that Fatal1ty motherboard, so we can have a $230 motherboard, which can be had for $170 if you take all the tags off of it
but oh no
gotta use john's system
gotta spend hundreds more (currently in your advice the total ammount of money you've suggested wasting is around $600...i'm not saying you've suggested the EE chip, i'm saying you've suggestd 6xx chips and over priced graphics cards...i thought the idea was to help members SAVE money, not waste it frivoulsly)