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99% of the news media see the "C" marking as interchangeable with 'confidential' and 'classified' because most of what I've seen so far in both written and televised media have them saying 'classified' rather than 'confidential'. In any event, no matter which term is used (because there is no differential between the two even with the State Department) they BOTH mean you aren't to share it or speak about it with anybody not holding the proper credentials to know about that information. As a matter of fact, according to the categories used, there is NO category called 'classified' as they are ALL 'classified' with 'confidential' being the second lowest ('public trust' is the lowest), then 'secret', and it goes up from there.
Considering that hilLIARy had been First Lady, a NY Senator (on the Foreign Relations Committee to boot) and then SoS, there is NO excuse for her to NOT know what the "C" marking meant..........and she just keeps digging that hole deeper every time she tries to deflect with more lies about it.
RE: there is NO category called 'classified'
YOU should run for POTUS
You're already smarter than TheRUMP
As I said....the two words are interchangeable
However, I've already shown you that no matter what you THINK you know about our laws, I'm still smarter than you'll ever be about them, JP, because even YOU believed the two were different and tried to smear Trump over his 'mistake'.
RE:Trump over his 'mistake'.
Are YOU saying HE made a mistake?
You're off the team!!!!....You should be praying TheRUMP doesn't hear about your blasphemous talk.
He's fired people for less...I hope you get a good settlement.
I put the word 'mistake' in quotes
just to irritate you, because there was NO mistake made......except by YOU with this thread In the first place. He really IS smarter than you claim.
RE:just to irritate you,
YOU would never do that....I have lost all faith in humanity.
He really IS smarter than you claim.
I claimed he didn't understand the classification markings....and he didn't. Judging by what HE said...that's what everyone has to go on...His words.
Deny all you want...it won't change the facts
You classify a document
It could be confidential, eyes only, secret, top secret, or top secret compartmented info.
RE:You classify a document
And this 'document" has a "header" with the "classification"?
NO "header"=NO "classification"?
FBI Director James Comey: no…There were three e-mails. The “c” was in the body, in the text but there was no header on the e-mail or the text.
Rep. Matt Cartwright: So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert at what’s classified and what’s not classified, and were following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified. Am I correct in that?
FBI Director James Comey: That would be a reasonable inference.
One of her aides or perhaps Sullivan
I can't remember which one right now, actually wrote to her and said that an email they wanted to forward to her refused to come and SHE wrote back giving them instructions on how to REMOVE the header so it would go through. That was revealed in one of the earlier document 'dumps' months ago, and I remember it clearly because I had to ask Derek about that. He told me that a 'classified' document coming from a 'classified' system would NEVER be delivered to an 'unclassified' system which is why all of the systems in the government itself are set up as 'classified'. The two systems are NOT allowed to talk to each other because of the header itself. By physically editing that document to remove the header, you are breaking the law in order to bypass the system itself. And NOBODY, including the FBI, has bothered to nail her on this topic, and I'm really pissed off over the fact that nobody in CONGRESS in ANY of the hearings they've held has brought this up either (at least not publicly that I've seen).
Common sense plays a part as well
My USAF security clearance when working in a communication center was Top Secret/Crypto. This did not mean I had the right to read or distribute any communications whatsoever. All it meant was that I was cleared to be in an area where documents up to that classification could be present and accessible. All classified documents carried the additional requirement of "need to know" before one could seek to view them. Even a document marked "Confidential" would not be fair game for a person with a higher clearance if that document was not important to their mission. We were taught that all potentially sensitive documents should be treated with great care. Conversations with our superiors or conversations overheard between other personnel should also be regarded as potentially sensitive. Almost nothing that left with us at the end of our shift was something that didn't come in with us at the start of the day. A security clearance wasn't something to take frivolously. When in doubt, keep it to oneself and leave it at the workplace.
That being said, I would think that politician's such as HC should know simply by the content of the material in their possession whether or not it's sensitive and should use common sense in assuring that it's kept private and allowed to remain only in one's official workplace under the control of those assigned to protect it. The lack of a marking on a document changes little. Its content is enough. I believe that the investigation disclosed that she, though not committing anything of a criminal nature that couldn't be defended, exhibited extreme lack of respect for the security of material with which she was entrusted. I guess we're supposed to think she's become instantly rehabilitated and ready to take on an even higher level of responsibility. I say "rubbish". I was just an enlisted person with no desire for a career in the military and even I knew better.
See my reply to JP regarding headers and removing them....
Editing it out for an unclassified system is all by itself a criminal offense and SHE gave instructions to others on how to do it.........Why is nobody bring this up? I'm so disgusted by this I could puke every day over that alone. Isn't that, along with setting up the server in the first place, the INTENT Comey ignored?
She should already be in jail
Intent and criminal activity also includes
the order to destroy and hide devices and the decision to mail via USPS instead of a courier hand delivering both a laptop and a flash drive containing ALL of the archived emails and documents that got 'lost' and never received by the FBI, all of this being done AFTER an order by Congress to preserve everything and AFTER a subpoena by Congress to hand over everything..........which is why Chavez is now opening a new investigation into obstruction. Without the few notes that the FBI took, this new information would never have come out again, but why the FBI didn't investigate this while they already had this information is another example of how Comey is another agency head that has been bought and paid for by this administration. There isn't even one agency in this administration that isn't corrupt and it started with the IRS revelations. back in 2010 with targeting the Tea Party exemptions and Eric Holder with Fast and Furious. Nobody fired, nobody held accountable, and nobody even investigated.
Not one department/agency is immune to corruption......
I think Comey's comments told why this wouldn't happen
It had nothing to do with whether charges were justified. It had to do with trying to find a prosecutor who'd risk their own career in order to see her tried and possibly not gain a conviction. I can imagine the real trial would be one against that prosecutor which would take place in the media.
I can see BO going the route that Ford did with Nixon......pardon her before an indictment could become a prosecution in a court room........OR she becomes president and actually has the authority to pardon herself.