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HD Plasma Calibration, PLEASE HELP!!!

Jul 26, 2009 9:03PM PDT

Hi, I am going to purchase a HD plasma, either the Panasonic V10 65" or the Pioneer Kuro Pro-151FD and have a ton of questions about calibration, I've read that it is EXTREMELY important...

What does FP mean? One post on another thread said that is used that and he needed to get his TV re-calibrated every 200 hours, that seems kind of crazy to me.

What exactly is the process, I take it out of the box, hook up my connections, turn on the TV and then what do I do to calibrate it?

Is it like a step by step thing or some hyper advanced thing?

Why is it that LCD's don't need calibration? How could a service menu on your TV destroy a display? I originally thought that these were settings, such as on a sound system. Do calibration discs do this automatically?

Ok, as you can tell I don't know anything about this. One example I need is you know how on a regular TV it has a ton of image settings and you can mess around with them on your own and either make it look much better then out-of-the-box or much worse? Is that like calibration only once you change the settings they can never be changed again?

If I just use the out of the box settings is that what Pioneer or Panasonic recommends?

Basically I just want to easiest solution for the best picture, I don't want to start trying to research calibration if it is that delicate. How big a deference is it really to get it calibrated vs. out of the box and why don't the companies just do it?

Also is there a type of disc I could get to run on these for the first 100 or so hours so that it gets a good break-in?

Thanks so much!!!!!!!!

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voip sdk
Jul 26, 2009 9:50PM PDT
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Take a deep breath...
Jul 27, 2009 1:50AM PDT

For your first question or statement, you have heard calibration is extremely important.

There are really mixed views on that, I know of a LOT of people that took the Plasma or LCD out of the box, followed the directions for basic set-up (you know plug it in turn it on, scan channels, set the time, etc) not picture tuning except to make sure to tell it if it asks that this is in home and not in-store, so it sets the defaults to what a typical home enviornment is like.

This was it for them and they are very happy with the picture and never did another thing.

Before I get in to it too much, I always suggest that folks wait at least a couple of months before paying for professional calibration, no matter how tight they make the electronics, stuff is going to settle in for that time frame 2-3 months and pretty much blow your calibration if you have it done on install day.

That said, their the the next level of calibration, user calibration and of course there are pro's and con's to that and people with religious views on it as well.

User calibration is basically going out and getting something like DVE's HD Video Essentials Calibration Disc in Blu-Ray and using just the user set-up menu's, follow along with the desc and adjust it best as possible to match what they say you should be seeing and what you are saying.

While this is a step-by-step process it can also be hyper-advanced depending on what you consider hyper-advanced. If you have never calibrated a TV then chances are you will find your first attempt taking several hours at least. The good news is if you don't like the results you can just pick to option to reset all video setting back to factory.

Calibration is a balance of art form and technical, controls like color temp, tint, color, brighness, etc all inter-act with each other to a degree, it is really only by experience you get a good feel and then can cal a set in less time and get a better result.

If you hunt around on many sets you can find your way to the "Service Menu's", I would not suggest this and while there should be no control to damage your set, there can be, so if you are going paste where the "user menu's" take you, then you should hire someone.

The final option is to pay someone, the upside to this is that will have additional tools you don't have for really dialing in the picture as well as access to settings you may not even get through a service menu.

The downside is you might not like the result and while you can change it all back, you will have wasted your money, since as I said before it is a combination of an art form and technical not all calibration people will be equal.

Then there is one final factor in all of this, well many actually but the final one for basic calibration is what you like. Just as most people don't use tone controls or an equalizer to get technically perfect sound, they use them to get sound they way they like it, this is why I look at video cal standards (and there are standards) as a baseline and then adjust to my liking and to various lighting or program material.

So the first thing I would suggest is get your TV, go through the burn in period, I would not use a disc for the burn in, just a channel that you zoom or fill the screen with that does not have a scroll bar and runs 24 hours if that is how you d3ecide to burn it in.

With no cal disc at all I would see how you like the picture, the TV has 4 or more sets of pre-set picture settings with factory calibration levels set for everything. Like you might have a Movie, Soft, Hot, Game, Sports, lables like that. This is not calibration just user options that change a bunch of settings grouped under a lable.

Watch some TV, watch some Blu-Ray movies under ideal lighting conditions and then some under less than idea, watch some upscaled movies, some no-HD and some HD from your cable or sat, etc.

Use your built in factory settings for all of this and try out different modes, like Movie or Game or Sports, and get a feel for your set, then you will be in a much better position to know if you need/want calibration, what you want calibrated and under what conditions you want it calibrated to.

There is no hurry on Calibration.

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Jul 27, 2009 4:08AM PDT

Have you ever owned a TV... Any tv?? All tv's, even computer monitors, need some calibration from a 12" to 200" projectors.


What TV do you have now??? What mode is it in??? If you have not done any calibration to it??? If not do some, it will give you an idea of what does what & remember brightness is for blacks (shadow detail) only and Contrast makes the screen brighter or darker with out affecting the shadows and black level. Some companies call contrast 'picture'

Brake-in disk is free on AVS in the plamsa area... It is in the stickly 'burn-in/brack-in thread II' it is the 1st post, download it unzip burn to a DVD or put the photos on a SDHC card.

It sounds like you would really need a calibration disk... $20 for the bluray. It will explain what settings do what, it is not just test patterns only. If you mess up just rest to defaults settings and start over.

You will only calibrate the tv 1 time after the 1st 100-200 hours, in that time you crank down the contrast around 25% when watching tv. Movies that fill the screen it is ok to have the contrast set higher, the reason for that is there no stations logos.
If you move the tv into a diffrent room that has diffrent lighting conditions, you will have to re-calibrate the tv.

Do you have or are you planing to get a Bluray player and HD package for your cable/Sat company???

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Calibration...
Jul 27, 2009 6:58AM PDT

I am replying to: givemeaname:

lol, YES I have owned many TVs, 5 actually in the past 10 years and 2 of them LCD and none plasma. The old Samsung 32" I have is in a bedroom and has no calibration and my current Samsung 40" is downstairs and has just basic modes set, for a movie I put it on Movie mode for gaming I put it on Game Mode, that's as far as I went. I will play around with my Samsung, it will give me some experience before I try calibrating the new plasma. I will get a Blu-Ray calibration disc and use that.

Thanks for the info about the contrast ratio, I will make sure to do that during the burn-in period and won't calibrate until that's done.

I already have HD cable and am planning on getting an addition HD DVR so this new TV. I also have a PS3 Blu-Ray so I am all set on HD material.

Thanks!