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by rookie47 / October 26, 2008 2:01 AM PDT

Recently when I log into a community forum for the town I live in through YUKU I get all kinds of popup adverstising that freezes my computer. When I log onto other forums such as this and car enthusiast forums it doesn't happen. Is the town site infected or is it my computer that is infected? Thanks

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Impossible to say
by Jimmy Greystone / October 26, 2008 3:40 AM PDT
In reply to: Have a question

It's impossible to say, since it could be one, the other, none, or both of the scenarios you speculated on.

However, the fact that it happens on one site and not others says to me that one of two scenarios is most likely.

#1: The site has been compromised and people have inserted a number of popups to the site
#2: The person(s) in charge of the site just loaded it with a bunch of popups either out of greed or financial necessity

In any case, the fact that you're even seeing these popups means that you must be using Internet Explorer 6, which is an extremely unwise idea. I'll just include my usual set of tips that's really geared more toward people with malware issues, but they might be useful for you too.


The more of these suggestions you follow, the fewer problems you should have. They won't solve any existing problems you have, but if you follow them all you should be able to avoid virtually all problems in the future.

Things you should NOT do
1: Use Internet Explorer (1)
2: Use any browser based on Internet Explorer
3: Use Outlook or Outlook Express (2)
4: Open email attachments you haven't manually scanned with your virus scanner
5: Open email attachments you were not expecting, no matter who they appear to be from
6: Respond to spam messages, including using unsubscribe links
7: Visit questionable websites (e.g. porn, warez, hacking)
8: Poke unnecessary holes in your firewall by clicking "Allow" every time some program requests access to the Internet (3)
9: Click directly on links in email messages
10: Use file sharing or P2P programs
11: Use pirated programs

Things you SHOULD do
1: Use a non-IE or IE based browser (4)
2: Always have an up to date virus scanner running (5)
3: Always have a firewall running (6)
4: Install all the latest security updates (7)(8)(9)
5: Delete all unsolicited emails containing attachments without reading
6: Manually scan all email attachments with your virus scanner, regardless of whether it's supposed to be done automatically
7: Copy and paste URLs from email messages into your web browser
8: Inspect links copied and pasted into your web browser to ensure they don't seem to contain a second/different address
9: Establish a regular backup regimin (10)(11)
10: Make regular checks of your backup media to ensure it is still good (12)

Being a considerate Internet user & other misc tips
1: Do not send attachments in emails (13)(14)
2: Do not use stationary or any other kind of special formatting in emails (13)
3: Do not TYPE IN ALL CAPS (15)
4: Avoid texting speak or "l33t speak" (16)
5: Do not poke the sleeping bear (17)


(1) Sadly sometimes this is unavoidable, so only use IE when the site absolutely will not work with any other browser and you cannot get that information/service anywhere else, and only use IE for that one specific site.
(2) Outlook and Outlook Express are very insecure, and basically invite spam. Possible replacements include Mozilla Thunderbird, Eudora, The Bat, and dozens of others.
(3) When it doubt over whether or not to allow some program, use Google to find out what it is and whether or not it needs access to the Internet. Otherwise, denying access is the safest course of action, since you can always change the rule later.
(4) On Windows your options include: Mozilla Firefox, Seamonkey, Opera, Flock, Chrome, and Safari. It doesn't matter which one you pick so much as that you pick one of them and use it over IE.
(5) AVG Free and Avast are available if you need a decent free virus scanner
(6) XP/Vista's firewall is probably good enough for 99% of all Windows users, but other options include ZoneAlarm, Outpost Firewall, and Comodo. If you have a router with a firewall built into it, there is no need for any of the aforementioned firewalls to be running.
(7) Microsoft's usual system is to release security updates every second Tuesday of the month.
(8) Use of Windows Update on Windows operating systems prior to Windows Vista requires Internet Explorer, and is thus a valid exception to the "No IE" rule.
(9) Service packs should ALWAYS be installed. They frequently contain security updates that will ONLY be found in that service pack.
(10) You can go with a full fledged backup program, or simply copying important files onto a CD/DVD/Flash drive.
(11) I'd recommend a tiered backup system. For example, you might have 5 rewritable DVDs, and every day you burn your backup onto a new disc. On the 6th day, you erase the disc for Day #1 for your backup, and so on so that you have multiple backups should one disc ever go bad.
(12) Replace rewritable CDs and DVDs approximately every 3-6 months.
(13) These dramatically increase the size of email messages (2-3X minimum) and clog up email servers already straining to cope with the flood of spam pouring in daily.
(14) If you want to share photos with friends/family, upload them to some photo sharing site like Flickr or Google's Picasa Web and then send people a link to that particular photo gallery.
(15) This is considered to be the same as SHOUTING and many people find it to be hard to read along with highly annoying.
(16) Unless the goal is to make yourself look like a pre-adolescent girl, or someone overcompensating for their gross inadequacies, and you don't want people to take you seriously.
(17) Most REAL hackers are quite content to leave you alone unless you make them take notice of you. No dinky little software firewall or consumer grade router is going to keep them out of your system. So do not go to some hacker website or chat room and start shooting your mouth off unless you're prepared to accept the consequences

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by rookie47 / October 27, 2008 2:15 AM PDT
In reply to: Impossible to say

"AVG Free and Avast are available if you need a decent free virus scanner"

I am using this one. Evertime I do a scan it states no problems but clearly on YUKU I am experiencing popups. I also am running Popup Stopper and that seems to do absolurely nothing.

I downloaded the Mozilla firefox browser and that states it's not compatable with my OS - Win ME

Can anyone tell me what other browser to use with ME for the time being?

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Well there is Opera.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / October 27, 2008 2:17 AM PDT
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by Jimmy Greystone / October 27, 2008 3:08 AM PDT
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Well, AVG Free and Avast are simply virus scanners, they don't really do much in the way of malware prevention/containment/removal. AVG Free 8 has some of this integrated into it, but it's not enough.

Until you've swept your system with, at a minimum, Adaware, Spybot, Malwarebytes, and Windows Defender, you cannot reasonably think you have managed to find and eradicate all malware on your system.

And while I haven't actually been to the site you mention, from the reports of others, it seems to be loaded with ads. So, maybe the best option here is to just not go to this site any longer. It sounds like one of those that is just plain bad news.

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YUKU has a lot of advertising and ...
by Edward ODaniel / October 26, 2008 4:10 AM PDT
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even with Firefox and the various extensions available There is even a YUKU extension but it won't solve your "problem". you will get it.

The easiest way to avoid any of the advertising is to pay and become a "Yuku Supporter" - good to do if you use the sites often as a dollar a month isn't bad (matter of fact I wish CNET would offer such to do away with the ads). You could do that from this link:

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by rookie47 / October 26, 2008 9:15 AM PDT

I'm using ME dition, Time to upgrade, I've put it off long enough. What is the most recent up to date version of Windows?

I use my computer for small business as well. Any suggestions?

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'What is the most recent up to date version of Windows?'
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / October 26, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
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That would be Microsoft Vista Service Pack 1, assuming you mean non-beta versions.

As to which version you want to use, that's a personal decision.. For business, many are sticking to Windows XP.. For personal use, it could go either way.. And even in business, the tide is starting to change..

Either way, I suggest you hook up with a friend, family member, or business associate and try them both. See which one you like best. It is still possible to get Windows XP on a computer but you'll need to build one yourself, purchase one through a local shop, or use the business sections of companies like HP and Dell.

Hope this helps.


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