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Has the Age of Virtual Humans Arrived?

Feb 7, 2020 5:41AM PST

With all the AI developments that have happened in the last year, I can’t help but think that we are on the verge of a new age where virtual friends will be the norm. Here is an interesting article that explains it a bit better : https://****.com/has-the-age-of-virtual-humans-arrived/

What do you think? Is this the age of virtual Humans?


Moderator Note: So this is not spam or SEO, the link has been disabled.

Post was last edited on February 12, 2020 5:53 AM PST

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Not really.
Feb 7, 2020 8:34AM PST

Since AI is being redefined as something else than what I was taught years ago I'm going with no.

Also, there's been a glut of spam and SEO about virtual assistants so spam filters eat those now. But it is really nothing new. Just a new title and a lot easier (not really) to create them.

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Never know who's who
Feb 13, 2020 5:40PM PST

Be careful because your next best friend may turn out to be AI.

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AI or cyborg?
Feb 13, 2020 6:51PM PST

While there currently is an AI that has her own channel with millions of followers. I would think trans humanism is gaining momentum faster then you might think. They are working on tattoos that can interact with electronics. I think our direct connectability to our devices will all but eliminate the need for AIs.

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On the Internet no one knows you're a
Feb 14, 2020 2:04AM PST

transgendered robot ...

Fake intelligence?

AI isn't our biggest problem. That one can be viewed in any mirror. (Including mine.)

Did I forget anything?
Oh, yes. The Bible. Jeremiah 10:23. I well know, O Jehovah, that man's way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
This has been well attested as truth many times in the 3000 years since, and is still so in the daily news. And who directs a robot's steps?

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Put your bible away
Feb 14, 2020 6:41PM PST

Transgender robots...Futurama did an episode on that...
Did I forget anything?
Oh,yeah, we're talking tech, not floating heads in the sky. Which Rick and Morty did.# NERD LIFE

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Yo. Great.
Feb 14, 2020 6:59PM PST

You get your views from fantasy sitcoms?
I'm supposed to pay attention?

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Brag harder
Feb 14, 2020 7:13PM PST

Fantasy sitcoms??? They're cartoons !
But still better then a book that has been the base for multiple attempted genocids.
Ancient alien theorist content; most of the biblical stories can be explained with misunderstood tech. What TECH, science wins again!!! #NDNs still here

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Yo. Great.
Feb 15, 2020 12:08PM PST

(It's OK to call you Great, isn't it? I thought so.)
So that we're on the same page, here's your recent private post to me.
"What's the matter? You can try to impose your own self involved, put people down, better then everyone posts, but can't handle when someone calls you on it? You flag my post when you know it's the truth. Grow up yuppie. Substitute means you are not good enough to do it full time. Why does it seem like all Christians want to talk about is how peaceful they are, then use their faith to put everyone else down? Fact is I don't like bullies especially ones that hide behind post. And I get it, we all want to feel important. It's when we do it others expense that we should contemplate our own true worth. This email is an old one, so hit me up on post."

Looking at this thread, I see no flags anywhere. I've been posting here for years, mostly under a userid that is my own name. Not hiding.
Religious bullies wear vests full of C-4, or States issued uniforms. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/#newsAlerts
My 'bullying' post was a reply to the OP. The key point was "AI isn't our biggest problem. That one can be viewed in any mirror. (Including mine.)"
IOW humans are responsible for most if not all the problems humans are facing. Not many would disagree with that, including scientists with expertise in the various fields. Therefore it seems unlikely to me that humans can solve these problems
Some plan to rely on AI- made by men like them. They're welcome to try.
This fall many in the US- maybe most- will rely on Trump. A man like them. They're welcome to try.

What I've been relying on for over thirty years is the information and advice in the Bible. It works for me and almost 9,000,000 others, and has for over 120 years in the modern era.
You know very little of the Bible, as I see by your statements. You can find out more here, of you like. jw.org
One thing you can learn right now is that the genociders were not believers in the Bible. They were imposters.
Please read Romans 12:17-21, which begins "Return evil for evil to no one." No one who deliberately kills another man is a Christian, or can claim belief in the Bible, because those who believe follow its instructions. The rest are imposters. This was accurately prophesied in the Bible, so we're not surprised by it.

Here's a tip. You could impress more people with your knowledge if you work on your spelling and grammar.

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Great is full of jokes
Feb 15, 2020 12:54PM PST

But needs to learn forum etiquette. I keep telling him to chill out but he does what he wants. Thank you and I hope he doesn't go too far.

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Forum etiquette?
Feb 15, 2020 11:55PM PST

You mean like the times when I was insulted to my [digital] face? Happy
The Mods are generally tolerant but have removed replies to me and others that 'went too far'. I also know of two regular posters who were banned. They can deal with Great the same way, but it won't be at my request.

There was once a very good radio sitcom about a local politician called The Great Gildersleeve. The character had that opinion of himself, and assumed that it was not ironic when others used it of him. He was wrong. I wonder ...

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That's Mr.\Ms. Great thank you!
Feb 15, 2020 7:08PM PST

I know more about the bible then you think. Went to catholic school for many years. You see one form of genocide is force an ideology on to the youth of a culture until their old ways are replaced with "better" ideals. A culture destroyed is a culture lost and usually leads to deluded ideas of what those people were.
As for why I called you a bully. I noticed a lot of your post have either comments that are using religion to put down ideas, or making little comments attacking what people say," doesn't your TV have an off switch?".
I got the name "The Great" because I'm usually right when I speak on something, so people come to me for advice. So, I'd challenge you to post with out turning it into a religious rant.
For the record, as a die hard pagan, I still find theology a good pastime. Including reading from the bible. Place and time for everything.

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Yo. Great.
Feb 15, 2020 8:30PM PST

Your first two sentences contradict each other. From my direct experience over the last thirty years.
So much for "usually right".

Full quote from me, on a different thread. "Did you know your TV has an 'off' switch? Happy "
Putiing a smiley on a bullying comment doesn't make it right, but I don't see any bullying. It's an old joke reply to someone complaining about the tube. Didn't bother the recipient.
So much for "usually right".

Let's try a question to determine your willingness to engage in constructive conversation. You said earlier that the Bible teaches genocide. Have you since learned anything to the contrary?

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My medicare ad question?
Feb 16, 2020 7:10AM PST

I know what thread you're talking about. It's my thread and thank you.

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Ask Jericho
Feb 17, 2020 12:25PM PST

During the destruction of the "Great" walls of Jericho. God order everyone be killed. The very meaning of genocide.
Catholics bible has more books. What, bigger isn't better. Maybe if it's in Texas.
Yesterday was one of my no device days. I try to do that at least twice a week.

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Yo. Great. Catching up on some loose ends.
Mar 4, 2020 12:55PM PST
In re Jericho's destruction. Jericho was one of the main cities of Canaan/Palestine, aka the Promised Land. This is what history says of it:
'Added to their other degrading practices was that of child sacrifice. According to Merrill F. Unger: "Excavations in Palestine have uncovered piles of ashes and remains of infant skeletons in cemeteries around heathen altars, pointing to the widespread practice of this cruel abomination." ((Archaeology and the Old Testament, 1964, p. 279) Halley's Bible Handbook, (1964, p. 161) says "Canaanites worshipped, by immoral indulgence, as a religious rite, in the presence of their gods; and then, by murdering their first-born children as a sacrifice to these same gods ... Did a civilization of such abominable filth and brutality have any right longer to exist? ... Archaeologists who dig in the ruins of Canaanite cities wonder that God did not destroy them sooner than he did."
From Insight on the Scriptures, pub. by Watchtower B&TS, NYC.

Here's what Jehovah said of it:
"When you are entered into the land that Jehovah your God is giving you, you must not learn to do according to the detestable things of those nations. There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son pass through [be killed by] the fire, anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, or one who binds others with a spell or anyone consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable things Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you. You should prove yourself faultless with Jehovah your God." (Deuteronomy 18:9-13.

In spite of their past behaviors, Jehovah opened a way for them to be saved. He said that if they changed their ways they could turn themselves over to the Israelites and live- by his standards. Proof of this was the case of Rahab, a prostitute who helped two Jewish spies. Why? Because she and her people knew that God would give his people success, as he had earlier. (Judges 2:8-13) All except she and her family died, not from ignorance or genocide but from lack of repentance. (Rahab shows up again at Matthew 1:5. She was the wife of Salmon, at Luke 3:32.)

On another occasion Jehovah sent Noah to warn a wicked population of the upcoming Flood; no one listened. (Genesis 6; 2Peter 2:5)
Similarly at Matthew 23:33-39; few listened. Also before and after the fall of Israel to Babylon, and after its fall.

The pattern:
>Bad behavior, noted by Jehovah.
>A clear warning, with adequate time to respond and a place of refuge identified.
>Kaboom!

Is a kaboom coming these days? Is there a warning being published? Is there a safe place furnished?
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Yo. Great.
Feb 16, 2020 12:02AM PST

I must apologize for one comment, about your spelling and grammar.
It was meant as a kind suggestion but didn't come across that way. It was also off-topic and therefore useless.
In fact, something went wrong as I was pasting my final version, which did NOT include it. I didn't see it until later.

Which means, as always, I blame it on my smartphone. Happy

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Then we have examples of what happens to "AI"s.
Feb 15, 2020 1:12PM PST
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Good catch. Never heard of it.
Feb 15, 2020 8:32PM PST

"Repeat after me". LOL! Sounds like a line from a very dark sci-fi story. Harlan Ellison maybe, with everyone dead at the end.

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I just realized that the bad examples used
Feb 16, 2020 12:06AM PST

are just like what I saw on my visit to the Wonderful World of Alt-right. I'm guessing the Ait-left ain't any better.

Brave new world.

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Humans Successfuly Engineer AI To Be like Them
Feb 28, 2020 3:23AM PST

I love that term though - Virtual Humans. It almost implies that humans are not virtual in the slightest. Scientists engineer ai to become almost human in every way, Maybe soon, we will have such miscreants around us, But not now.
~Engineer.AI

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Interesting angle
Mar 3, 2020 1:17AM PST

It could be. With increasingly stressful daily lives, where we can barely take time to socialize, our ability to interact deteriorates and we become introverts basically. Virtual humans will be an escape for such people. Wont take long until it normalizes.