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H'mmm......

by Mac McMullen / March 26, 2006 2:31 AM PST
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(NT) (NT) Good article
by duckman / March 26, 2006 2:42 AM PST
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H'mmm.....
by JP Bill / March 26, 2006 3:19 AM PST
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Iran hostage crisis

President Carter applied economic pressure by halting oil imports from Iran and freezing Iranian assets in the United States. At the same time, he began several diplomatic initiatives to free the hostages, all of which proved fruitless. On Apr. 24, 1980, the United States attempted a rescue mission that failed. After three of eight helicopters were damaged in a sandstorm, the operation was aborted; eight persons were killed during the evacuation. Secretary of State Cyrus Vance, who had opposed the action, resigned after the mission's failure.

In 1980, the death of the shah in Egypt and the invasion of Iran by Iraq (see Iran-Iraq War) made the Iranians more receptive to resolving the hostage crisis. In the United States, failure to resolve the crisis contributed to Ronald Reagan's defeat of Carter in the presidential election. After the election, with the assistance of Algerian intermediaries, successful negotiations began. On Jan. 20, 1981, the day of President Reagan's inauguration, the United States released almost $8 billion in Iranian assets and the hostages were freed after 444 days in Iranian detention; the agreement gave Iran immunity from lawsuits arising from the incident


Carter applies sanctions, makes a rescue attempt, tries diplomatic channels, then,

The Shah dies, Iraq invades Iran, Regan gets elected, and, he starts diplomatic negotiations (through Algeria) and releases the 8 billion that Carter had collected.

If the Shah didn't die, Iraq didn't invade Iran, and Algeria didn't get involved in negotiations, and Carter didn't collect 8 Billion,

Do you think Regan would have been successful?
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Response
by duckman / March 26, 2006 4:53 AM PST
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Yes

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Sorry, JP
by Mac McMullen / March 26, 2006 6:20 AM PST
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I went blind to the "rantings" and "finger pointing" so I didn't pick up on any of that.

The thrust of the message I picked up was to put out the fire BEFORE it became out of control due to ever changing political winds.

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You got the carrot but missed the stick...
by EdH / March 26, 2006 11:05 AM PST
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They were afraid of what Reagan might do to them once Carter was out of the picture.

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Re: what Reagan might do
by JP Bill / March 26, 2006 12:03 PM PST

And what did Regan do?

released almost $8 billion in Iranian assets and gave Iran immunity from lawsuits arising from the incident

He sure showed them,

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Profoundly ignorant...
by EdH / March 26, 2006 8:12 PM PST

Or maybe you don't understand the carrot/stick principle.

And check the spelling of Reagan.

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Re: carrot...stick
by JP Bill / March 27, 2006 3:00 AM PST
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1979: Shah of Iran flees into exile

Western governments, like the US, UK and West Germany, have continued to express support for the Shah.

Opposition to the Shah has become united behind the Muslim traditionalist movement led by Iran's main spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini, from exile in France.

Earlier this month he appointed a new prime minister, Dr Shapur Bahktiar. When, on 13 January, the Ayatollah declared a revolutionary Islamic council to replace what he called the "illegal government" of Iran, Dr Bahktiar persuaded the Shah it was time to leave.



The Shah was an American puppet, had to flee the country

ReAgan gave back 8 billion, brought no charges for kidnapping, left Khomeni in power.

Where was the stick, what did Iran lose?

When it comes to spelling errors, I'll be watching you Wink
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If you release those hostages
by JP Bill / March 27, 2006 3:14 AM PST
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I'll give you $8 billion, THEN you'll be sorry.

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