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Got my new car today -- Hyundai Sonata GLS

Jun 14, 2007 2:12PM PDT

(bought Monday)

Surprised? No more surprised than I was to be even considering it, but the car I just bought for 18.5k (including a 2k rebate, TT&L and destination charges) would cost about 29k if it were a comparably equipped Camry -- and Toyota woouldn't sell me the Camry I wanted (just as in 2001 when I bought the Camry I traded in, there was not one Camry available in the entire country, or likely to be, that came with BOTH the optional side air bags and the optional ABS brakes, there was not one Camry available now, or likely to be, that has the soon-to-be mandatory stability/traction control and didn't have a moonroof. Living in hot, humid, skin cancer-prone Galveston, I wouldn't take a moonroof if they gave ME the $1100 it costs!)

And I'm apparently not the only one starting to come to this conclusion -- the Sonata is one of the best-kept secrets in the auto industry, even though Edmunds finished up their three-way comparison of the Camry, Accord, and Sonata last year as follows:

>> It's Official, Hell Freezes Over
Mark this year down in the history books as the year Hyundai got serious. Not only is the Sonata as nice as the Accord and Camry, it's quite a bit better in many key areas.... Yes, our editors' evaluation forms showed the Sonata just edging out the Accord, but in the areas of performance and features, the Hyundai won in a landslide. Next thing you know, they'll be selling space heaters in Lucifer's 'hood. <<

And for those with an investing bent, I plan to check out Hyundai stock tomorrow -- I'm getting the same vibes about this company that I did when I bought a Dell computer in 1989, and 100 shares of Dell stock, which by now has paid for the computer more than 30-times over.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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Been buying Hyundais for years
Jun 14, 2007 10:11PM PDT

I tend to buy new and drive the car until it's ready for the Rescue Mission so trade in isn't a consideration. I'm currently driving an Elantra and I love it.

Diana

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I usually do that too, Diana.
Jun 15, 2007 12:16AM PDT

There was a reason for the trade: My Toyota had a defect (they used a cheaper oil pump from '97-2001, that could cause the oil to turn to sludge even when you did proper mainenance as I did). Acting like an American auto company in the 50's, they didn't issue a recall, but instead would pay for repairs if a customer made enough noise (since it usually happens well after the 3-year warranty expires). In one of the few truly useful class action suits that did more than make the lawyers rich, they were forced to extend the warranty to 8 years. I've noticed some blue smoke on starting if the car has sat for 3-4 days, so the problem is coming, but the warranty expires next August (200Cool. I didn't feel like fighting with them over whether it was already bad enough to fix (my dealer said no), and if I'm going to trade, it made sense to skip a year's price increases (especially with the gradually sinking dollar, which I expect to accelerate) or lose another year's depreciation on the trade-in value. When I took K out for a ride last night, she commented that it gives a much smoother ride than my Camry did, or than her fairly new Prius (we bought it in Spetemeber, just before the tax credit offer expired).

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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Got inspired by this post
Jun 15, 2007 3:01AM PDT

We've got a 2000 4cyl Camry my wife uses. We bought it new and it has less than 40k miles. The check engine light has been coming on and I've just been disconnecting the battery to reset it and see if it returns. Well, it takes a few days but the light comes back on. There have been no performance problems and the oil seems ok. Due to it's low mileage and short hop trips we change it twice a year. I had heard of the sludge problem. As well, they are prone to false alarms generated by emissions components in the fuel system, gas tank, vapor recovery, whatever. I hate to take it in and trust a dealership to give me an honest evaluation and repair. But, if there's a warranty issue involved, they are the only ones you can go to. I've been putting this off for a year now but my wife is taking a trip to Michigan next month for some educational seminar. She'll drive rather than fly so the car needs to be reliable. I, too, tend to keep a car until it becomes a repair liability. The Camry has given no trouble. I had to replace the battery after 5 years but that's a normal life. Otherwise, no hiccups at all. Enjoy your new ride. Happy

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(NT) Congrats on then new ride, DaveK...always an exciting thing!
Jun 15, 2007 5:51AM PDT
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I rented one a couple of weeks ago....
Jun 17, 2007 2:50AM PDT

...when I was in New York. Drove it around 200 miles. Nice ride. Hyundai has come a long way since the abysmal Excel. A friend of mine had one of those and every time he came to a stop, he had to turn off the A/C to get the car moving again. I thought the Sonata was very comfortable and handled very well.

Congrats on the new wheels!