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Good news from Guantanamo

Nov 20, 2003 5:50AM PST

This should please Tim and Charlie, it sure as hell pleases me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3285917.stm

'Tony Blair has said the issue of UK citizens interned at Guantanamo bay will be resolved soon. The prime minister's comment came after the US hinted it may release the Britons being held by the US at Camp Delta in Cuba for trial in the UK. The offer was indicated by US Secretary of State Colin Powell, visiting the UK along with US President George W Bush.'

About time too, so at last maybe our citizens will be treated justly and receive a fair trial as is their right, not some concocted Soviet-style puppet "trial".

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AMEN! About time! It's amazing that the international community has let it go on for this long!
Nov 20, 2003 6:32AM PST

They have said the same thing about a Swede who is there, but the US government claims that Sweden doesn't DARE taking him home... LOL! Happy I thought the Soviet Union had fallen. Was I wrong?

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Re:Good news from Guantanamo
Nov 20, 2003 6:33AM PST

Dale,

I would think it is the least GW can do beings he is over there (your Country) kissing TB's posterior.

Tim

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definition of the word ''Jury''
Nov 20, 2003 7:04AM PST

12 people who decide which lawyer was the most convincing....

what does it matter where you hang scum?

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Re:definition of the word ''Jury''
Nov 20, 2003 7:19AM PST

In a one world government, it probably would not matter where.

Do you think Israel wants a one world government meddling in how they govern themselves?

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Nov 20, 2003 7:25AM PST
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Nov 20, 2003 9:17AM PST
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deleted or not....i STILL don't know what you mean (NT)
Nov 20, 2003 3:08PM PST

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I think I know what he means
Nov 20, 2003 8:10PM PST

I think he means the US has detained these people under US laws (supposedly). Tim is questioning by what right? As he says, we are not under a one world government, and the detainees committed alleged "offenses" inside another country's sovereign territory. What gives US law any jurisdiction there, since when does the law of one country extend over the borders of another?

How would Israel feel if say, Britain, or even its friend the United States, tried to impose their laws and "arrest" people within Israel's borders? That is what he is saying, I believe, he is questioning jurisdiction and territorial limits.

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Re:if that's his meaning, then i lost the thread somewhere
Nov 20, 2003 9:33PM PST

if we're talking about people taken/captured/arrested by the US military in a time and place of armed conflict?..(read war)

if it was the FBI/MI5 walking in to a coffee shop in tel-aviv and "arrestimg" someone, that would piss me off too....

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I've been a juror. The jury discussed the statements made
Nov 20, 2003 8:10AM PST

by the witnesses, not the lawyers.

Ian

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*sigh* it was a''joke'' ian........NT
Nov 20, 2003 9:21PM PST

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But that's the whole point
Nov 20, 2003 8:40AM PST

The Brits there are not scum. They are innocent until proved guilty. That word is "p-r-o-v-e-d", and not "'tis so 'cus Bush say it is".

Seems to me, in their enthusiasm for war and confrontation, the American administration has forgotten one of the foundation stones upon which their own society is built.

One can't help but wonder, if these were Americans held in such manner and conditions elsewhere by another country, would they meekly nod and say it was acceptable and civilised treatment? I somehow doubt they would, rather I think they would be mobilising their batallions for another war.

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NT - AMEN again Dale!
Nov 20, 2003 8:56AM PST

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Elsewhere in another country...
Nov 20, 2003 10:02PM PST

Does the name William Hayes ring a bell? How about the movie Midnight Express? His crime in Turkey was dealing with drugs. The U.S. tried to negotiate something, but basically he had to pay the price that was put upon him. The conditions in which he was held were much worse than those described in the movie. BTW, he did escape, but not in the way that the movie described. Yes, In the past I once met with him personally and we talked. Even after all that time had passed, I'll never forget his eyes.
Oh, by the way, if an American were to be caught breaking a law in Mexico and were sent to prison there, the U.S. might try to negotiate something, but in many cases they would serve the time. There are some, for lack of a better word, "interesting" conditions in some of their prisons.

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More Good News From Guantanamo...
Nov 22, 2003 6:25PM PST

"ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) - Five Pakistani prisoners arrived home Saturday after being freed by American authorities from the U.S. detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, officials said.

The men were captured in Afghanistan during the U.S.-led campaign to oust the Taliban in late 2001, and were later shifted to Guantanamo Bay to investigate their suspected links to al-Qaida, an Interior Ministry official told The Associated Press.

The official said the men will remain in Pakistani custody for a few days before being allowed to go free.

"We believe that they had no links with any militant groups, but we want to satisfy ourselves before allowing them to go to their homes," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The official gave no other details. He said efforts are underway to secure the release of the remaining Pakistani prisoners in Guantanamo Bay.

U.S. authorities have been holding more than 600 people from 42 countries at its naval base in Guantanamo on suspicion of links to al-Qaida or the Taliban.
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Five Pakistanis Freed From Guantanamo