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Global Warming skeptics are like Holocaust deniers?

Apr 27, 2006 11:51PM PDT
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This is an opinion piece, so don't jump on me. Not that even Prof Hansen thinks the Global Warming advocates have gone off the deep end:

Even Dr. Global Warming himself, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies -- who participated in the same teleconference -- cautioned the others against pushing the rhetoric too far: "I am a little concerned about this, in the sense that we are still at a point where the natural fluctuations of climate are still large -- at least, the natural fluctuations of weather compared to long-term climate change." This is a much more moderate musing than some of his recent views, which include the warning that we might have only ten years left to turn things around, global warming-wise.

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Perhaps this is a signal that it's time to push a new theory
Apr 28, 2006 12:23AM PDT

It seems that the 'science' community, like academia, must periodically pursue something new. You can't keep doing the same old thing for too long.

I'm sure it can't be as radical as noticing that 'science', becoming increasingly political, has lost much of its credibility.

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Especially when non-scientists push their
Apr 28, 2006 1:03AM PDT

political agenda and insist that they are right and the scientists are wrong.

Diana

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Please ...
Apr 28, 2006 1:33AM PDT

... most of the non-scientists pushing an agenda are cherry picking and misrepresenting that which the scientist ACTUALLY say.

Climate scientists are FAR from the Chicken Little, the end is nigh crowd that the proponents of Kyoto would lead us to believe they are.

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Bingo
Apr 28, 2006 3:08AM PDT
most of the non-scientists pushing an agenda are cherry picking and misrepresenting that which the scientist ACTUALLY say

Didn't say which politicians or scientists. It's your assumption that I'm talking against your beliefs.

Diana
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My apologies ...
Apr 28, 2006 6:36AM PDT

... I got the mistaken impression that you were "on board" with global warming and agreeing with those here who believe global warming skeptics are attacking scientists or impuning their intelligence.

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Not sure what I'm thinking about global warming
Apr 28, 2006 7:02AM PDT

I just believe that, whichever way it goes, it's too late to do anything about it. It's going to play itself out no matter what we do now.

Just listening to the tail-end of a program that talks about global warming. It says that the last time the world warmed up, the deep freeze followed in just ten years. Didn't say how much it warmed up or what the average temperature was.

What can I say - I'm a worrier - runs in the family.

Diana

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I worry too ...
Apr 28, 2006 7:16AM PDT

... just wish that rather than wasting billions on something we can't do anything about, we should be spending them figuring out how to cope. When this Administration announced a focus to deal with the impact of global warming they were roundly ridiculed.

But most of the time I don't worry so much. If it makes you feel better, that recent piece in Time (and there was a TV show -- 60 Minutes I think -- were really more hype than substance. One glacier is melting, another 50 miles SOUTH of that glacier has been advancing! So I think there's a lot of selective presentation of "facts" to scare people into making "uncomfortable choices" that don't need to even be made.

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Correct
Apr 28, 2006 6:21AM PDT

which explains how the idea of man-made global warming has become so "accepted" even when experts continue to publish studies casting doubt on it.

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Maybe he's "seeing the light"
Apr 28, 2006 12:40AM PDT

due to the recent press that reveals a large portion of the scientific community that disagrees with him.
Scientists are human and can get caught up pushing an agenda beyond the facts involved. Protection of our environment is a worthy goal that should be attempted, and perhaps he just go too caught up in enthusiasm and did not realize the consequences of his previous statements.