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General OP on CA fires.

Nov 15, 2018 6:40AM PST

I'll start.
Probably some New Mexicans on the lines out there. The Native pueblos have their own fire teams for wilderness fires, for obvious reasons. They also 'have shovel, will travel'. Zuni people especially are ready. Their cops even take ownership of Interstate problems inside their land.

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BTW, how long has he been in my country
Nov 19, 2018 6:04AM PST

and still doesn't speak my language???
Speaks "english" or something. I've heard 'im.

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No mention of Corriganville Ranch, now Park,
Nov 19, 2018 4:13AM PST
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Thanks for the link. I'm interested in history,
Nov 19, 2018 6:43AM PST

including architecture history.
Some random thoughts on it.

As I read it, the score is one fake church and one real Buddhist temple saved; summer camps owned by "The Synagogue to the Stars" destroyed. Omens? Acts of God? Or just acts of "unforeseen circumstances", as the [Hebrew] bible says. Happy

Nice of the Getty folks to put their property to good use.

In re other comments here, on Pepperdine U.: "Due to the fire risk in the area, buildings are fireproof and 500 acres of the university’s property are left in their natural state and regularly cleared of brush, creating a firebreak." Note that "natural state" would include brush. So, there is authentic, and there is common sense.

"Sepulveda Adobe: The 155-year-old adobe (pictured above) has been reduced to “just a shell,” per Barbara Tejada, an archeologist with California State Parks." Adobe - mud, to you Anglos - is fireproof in any case; the "shell". Unbaked, it isn't waterproof, so if a quake collapses the roof then the walls gradually wash away. Baked adobe IS waterproof, but the baking is costly in fuel and labor, so it's rarely done. That's what happened to many of the [unbaked] Spanish Missions. The Tower of Babel OTOH had nearby sources of bitumen, so its bricks were "baked with a burning process".

Another story is https://la.curbed.com/2018/9/12/17848040/paker-center-demolition. That's as in LAPD Parker Center, built in my day. An interesting read.

And, while you're at it, visit the Pacific Design Center.
'There is no frigate like a URL
to bear us lands away.'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Design_Center

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Here's an update on the "missing".
Nov 19, 2018 5:57AM PST

Says "1000", but with caveats.
It's an excerpt from my daily Reuters feed.

"Emergency services sifted through the charred wreckage of California’s deadliest ever wildfire, searching for signs of nearly 1,000 people believed still missing as crews made progress in bringing the blaze under control. Searchers looking for the remains of victims of the wildfire that destroyed the Northern California town of Paradise said some bodies may never be found because of the intensity of the blaze."

An earlier post of mine, at the "600" count, was meant to show that some missing may be alive but out of touch. That's almost certainly the case, and unusual for a small-town environment. Also there may be some duplicate listings, which the authorities are already addressing.

Anyway, one is too many. Sad

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(NT) There are NM folks there. haven't heard which ones.
Nov 19, 2018 11:58AM PST