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Gallo pinot noir slop

Feb 17, 2010 12:27PM PST

This has to be highly embarassing. I wonder how many of their experts passed on it. I've often wondered who is best for telling the difference between what's good and what's slop, the wine tasters, or beer drinkers? I'd put my money on the beer drinkers.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7030802.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093

The label boasted of wine ?crafted with handpicked grapes? offering ?dark fruit aromas and flavours of black cherry and ripe plum?.

That description fooled the customers of E&J Gallo, the US wine giant, but not the fine noses of the fraud squad in the Languedoc-Roussillon region of southern France.

A court in Carcassonne yesterday sentenced 12 local executives who were caught by the investigators passing off inferior wine as pinot noir and selling 18 million bottles of it to Gallo, the biggest family-owned wine firm in the US.

Gallo sold it in the US under its popular Red Bicyclette pinot noir brand.

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I really never cared for the ceremonial
Feb 17, 2010 6:27PM PST

wine sipping when a bottle was brought to a restaurant table. It seemed pretentious. I'd just ask the waiter to skip it and many seemed to be relieved. Of course I don't know one fermented grape from another and never order it anymore.

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I agree, except...
Feb 20, 2010 3:02AM PST

I have on a couple of occasions sent back a bottle because on tasting I could tell it was off and the waiter agreed.

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I don't see how this gives an edge to beer drinkers...
Feb 17, 2010 8:51PM PST

and no one said the wine was "slop", just that it wasn't made of the grapes claimed.

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beer drinkers
Feb 20, 2010 2:15AM PST

they tend to consume more in liquid measurement due to lower alcohol content than wine drinkers. So, they probably tend to develop discerning taste more quickly. I also doubt they are mislead as easily due to wine snobbery. Sometimes you see beer tasting events, mainly for a group of micro breweries. Still, the preferred taste is based more on the consumer's desire than various recognized critics.

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Beer drinkers wooud be better at discerning wines?
Feb 20, 2010 2:59AM PST

I doubt it. It's unreasonable to expect a wine taster to detect a particular kind of grape used in a given wine. Pinot Noir is used in a wide variety of wines with a wide variety of tastes and scents. The fault is not in the tasters.