FYI: Support for XP with SP2 will end on July 13, 2010

If you are running Windows XP without Sp3 installed, your PC will not be able to update itself in the near future, etc. If your PC is unable to install/run with SP3, than it is seriously time to upgrade to a new PC that can, or that can run Windows 7. The way I look at it, you are trying to run a 1963 VW Bug with Premium gas instead of regular, when you try to install and run SP3 on an outdated PC. Donate the old one to a charity, go out an get a new PC, they have gone down in price so much that it is silly not to!

Bad analogy. Actually a '63 Beetle will run as well on premium as well as on regular, though you'd be wasting money. (However, unless you added a lead substitute, you'd damage the valves either way as current gasoline formulations don't contain lead.) Better analogy:trying to keep your '63 VW ahead of modern vehicles while going uphill in the fast lane on a German Autobahn.

Lead isn't the only issue. Foolishly, I used to use premium gas in my '89 Beretta GT. The throttly body would get quite contaminated on a very regular basis. When I told the service dept. about using premium gas, they suggested I stop and the problem disappeared.

In my system XP3 is not supported why? Please send me the solution in detail.

What "system" are you referring to? Make and model please.

XP SP3 still has "extended support" on everyone else's computer until 2014, at least.(Updates, etc..) Why do you say it's not supported? Are you not getting updates? Have you received some special notification from Microsoft about your "system"?

Hope this helps and let us know more.

Grif

Just a couple of links to get you started Roger;
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?messageID=2778635#2778635

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?messageID=2778635#2778635

That last one offers a direct link to HP's FTP site for an executable file which is a fix for this problem. I am not sure it will still be available after two years or so.

Good luck.

Mark

I have a Compaq Presario Model SR1514NX, about 5-6 years old. When this Microsoft Windows XP SP3 Upgrade Utility for systems with AMD processors was made available 2 years ago, I attempted to install it. I then received the following message:"Your system does not meet the minimum requirements for this update. Update has been cancelled. (9998)" I emailed HP for help but received no response. My previous attempt to update to SP3 without the utility resulted in the blue screen of death. I had to boot up in safe mode and uninstall SP3 to get my computer functioning again. Would love to upgrade to SP3, but just don't see how it's possible with this unit. Any suggestions anyone might have would be greatly appreciated. I know that if I have to replace my computer over this issue, I will be very disinclined to buy an HP made computer, or one with an AMD processor.

I found this;
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Operating-systems-and-software/upgrading-xp-from-sp2-to-sp3/m-p/87669/highlight/true#M8454

"The patch for SP 3 is not needed on your machine. It is only machines that have the HP pre-installed XP that have issues with SP 3."

That's for the SR5152NX model and I assume there is little difference.

So I wonder if your SP3 problems are different to the reported AMD/HP difficulties.

Mark

This model came with XP installed. The only thing I have done is kept the unit updated every week. So now I'm up to SP2 but cannot progress to SP3 for the reasons stated previously. The unit continues to be updated weekly, but apparently anything that builds on SP3 won't take. I wonder what "the minimum requirements for this update" are.

After two plus years of paralysis on my part, derived from a fear of 'killing' my system with another unsuccessful xpsp3 installation, I have finally summoned the courage to re-attempt to install xpsp3. This 'courage' was driven by the feeling that my xpsp2 system was becoming increasingly irrelevant. This notion of irrelevance stems from the ever increasing number of occasions where an attempt to access some improvement to the performance of my otherwise meticulously updated system ran into the roadblock: "What you are trying to do requires the installation of SP3". This thin courage has also been bolstered by all of the posts on this thread over the past year. I finally got this picture in my mind of what I should do to keep my XP alive. This picture is best summarized by Grif's post (#30 on this thread) where he provided a link: "Update: Preparing Your Windows XP Computer For SP3". I clicked on all the links within that link and printed them out so I could be sure to accurately follow the instructions contained there-in. Not everything applied to my system, but I carefully did everything that did seem to apply, and I was ready to take the plunge. I did not download to disc the extended version of Microsoft's SP3 update since Microsoft was so adamant about not doing this for single home installations. This extended version would be my backup plan if Windows Update did not work. But the regular Update did work, like a charm. This was followed by the 85 Updates which I had not been able to do because they required SP3 to be installed first. This all went off without a hitch. It only took about 3 hours to do all the updates. I don't know what went wrong when I got the 'blue screen of death' back in 2008. Maybe Microsoft tweaked SP3 to compensate for my funky Athlon processor. Maybe all of the prep work in Grif's post did the trick. Whatever, thanks to everyone for their input on this subject. The help is really appreciated.

And thanks for telling us.

Mark

Mark, hello.

You say that the HP install of XP, OEM is the cause of this problem with the SP2 or SP3 updates. I differ ! I have a homebrewed machine with an Athlon 1300 and I use the retail XPP CD to get it going and I did have this problem. My machine is an old IBM box but I changed the MoBo on it as the orignal one was zapped. Nothing HP here.

But rejoice, this very day, I loaded it again with XPP, got all the MS updates including SP1, SP2 and SP3 and it is merrily humming now. I thought that I would mention this.

Have a great day. JP.

I got one booting so maybe can revive one system thanks to your link. Problem though I can not hook my hard drive to this laptop. last was blue death again!
michelle

I purchased my Compaq Presario (SR1730Z) in 2006, and it came with XP SP2 preinstalled. When SP3 was released, I read all the horror stories about installing it on an AMD processor. I collected tons of information in anticipation of upgrading, and finally upgraded only this past December!

Since I had installed all of Microsoft's updates, including the one that fixed what was an AMD problem, I had NO problem upgrading to SP3 at all. I even tried to download HP/Compaq's fix prior to upgrading, only to be told I didn't need it.

Hope you have the same result.

Roger, good evening.

You are right, SP2 or SP3 has crunged a few machines that run on Athlon. Fear not, somebody has fixed this. Just today, I redid a HP machine with an Athlon 1300 and all is fine. I was able to the load all my apps, Paint SHop Pro, Office 2000 and a whole lot. It must be something that Microsoft fixed as all the fixes professed to cure this before sure did not. Go for it, JP.

My apologies, I didnt read the FYI properly and in regards to Service Pack 3 being for XP. I do have SP2 on my laptop but think I should turn it on and upgrade to SP3
Sorry for the confusion

like the security updates, etc? I have updates set to auto but sometimes there are supposedly non high priority but they can be important none-the-less. I use .Net a lot & those are not considered high priority so I have to go look for them.

I have SP3. The previous post said support for that ends 8/10. Do you mean 8th month being August 2010? That seems way too soon after Sp2 ends!

it is about technical support from Microsoft for all XP users who have not yet upgraded to SP3. Security updates will continue, although for those who do not yet have SP3 some of those may fail as they would need SP3 to install properly.

I too do not understand the 8/10 reference. SP3 support will continue for some years yet.

Mark

Hello Dicthner.

What you mentioned as a revert back image is fine. But you need to be on SP3 to have Windows Security Essentials as a virus cleaner. You can get it only if you are able to get all the Updates from the MS site. The problem that we have when using an Athlon CPU is that it is not recognized by these two updates, SP2 and SP3, they freeze any Athlon machine. It is not very nice of MS to not do anything about these two updates as all Athlon users will be left in a lurch after July 13th.

I have three Athlon machines running, none is OEM. All three are homebrewed and are fine machines. I had been trying to install these two updates for the last three years. At the moment, I am really insisting with MS and a fine techie seems to be answering my pleases. He is sending me a free CD of XPP with a streamed SP3 to load from it and see if it will then run fine and have access to IE 8 and mainly Security Essentials. I will know in a week or so and will be back here to tell either joy or sadness. I would then again pursue MS to at least have them recognize that there is a "coding" problem in their updates, not the users' problem.
I have tried lately, at least 20 times to get these to install. As you do, I have an image of one of my machines running SP1, and if again the updates crunge it, I can get back to SP1 in 7 minutes and try another method. I use Acronis clone. I promise to get back with any result.
XPP is for sale on eBay for

Hi,

That's the first I've heard of a bug on athlon machines (do you mean old althon chips, or any AMD chip?). My wife's machine is an AMD 5050e, but she runs Kaspersky and Vista 64. I was hoping to switch to MSE after her license with Kaspersky runs out. You're saying that won't work because her machine is AMD? Or is that just a problem for older AMD chips and XP?

As for getting Microsoft Security Essentials, it can be gotten from Softpedia. That way, you don't have to fool with the genuine checks... at least not at initial install.

fool with genuine checks?

Whether or not these university machines are infected, you can prevent your own computer from being infected by scanning the files on the memory keys before transferring them across.

Mark

Mark, good morning.

Your solution vis-

Good morning dfichtner.

As fas as I know, MSE is only available if one runs IE 8 and this requires having installed SP2. The problem with these, is that any Athlon CPU will not "see" these updates. There are quite a few sad stories on this. Did you install SP2 ? I would be curious to know. I do not know if any Athlon-64 running XPP, would allow this, all mine are Athlon 1300, 32 bit. Let me know.

I am typing this on an Athlon-64, running W-Se7en so it does not apply. The XPP ones are in question here concerning the SP2 and SP3. When I get back home in a week, I hope that this testing CD of XPP *** SP3 will be there and I would be able to test it and let all know. These CDs are on eBay at