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Fresh Install of Windows 10 after Upgrade. Then what?

I upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 per the Microsoft Plan. My computer is running slooowly. I'd like to try a fresh format and install of Windows 10. I have the Windows 10 pro setup on a flash drive and don't expect any major problems.

However, it's been some time since I've stripped a hard drive and started over. My main concern is having to re-install all my software. This includes things like Office 2007, through all the little helpful downloads I've made over the years.

I'd think that by now there would be some way to mirror the software settings I currently have, without having to re-install all the software one application at a time.
Currently, my daily backup is home brew, using RoboCopy in a scheduled task. I am open to using any kind of mirror, but I'd need instructions.

So my questions boil down to 2.
1. Is it possible to automatically recreate my software settings on the new drive?
2. Am I doomed to re-install all of my software? This would take weeks.
Thanks for your thoughts. -fb

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Sort of.

1. You can try with Microsoft's Easy Transfer for settings and files. No apps will be saved. Just like before.
2. Yes.

About 2. It was about 1995 that Microsoft pretty much changed it all where we can't copy apps/programs around. 20 years later folk still want that back.

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Sort of Clarified?

So Microsoft offers "help" with the prior machine's settings and files to be transferred to the clean machine, but I would still have to install each piece of software from scratch!
That makes MicroSense. I'll bet the "Easy Transfer" is written and works as well as Windows 10.
Update: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-easy-transfer-is-not-available-in-windows-10
Microsoft has partnered with Laplink to bring you PCmover Express. I'll look into it. Thank you for the reply. I'm not sure I want anything to do with MS right now.

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Ouch ouch.

I'm sure more folk will be writing about this...

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Hey Lee: Sort of "now in vidid uhd color"

PCmover; the fast and easy solution for migrating your files, settings, profiles, and applications PC to PC. On sale for $45 bucks. For a mere $20 they'll copy your files for you.

So, I own my files. I even own my settings and profiles, but the programs I've paid for - all belong to Microsoft, regardless of who wrote them. The Freeware I've installed as well as the Antivirus, all my applications. And Microsoft, partnered with Laplink will sell them all back to me for a piddly $45.

You know, if I thought Microsoft could pull this off where it actually worked, I'd gladly ransom my PC for $45 bucks, hell, I'd pay the off sale price. Or more. Lee - Where should I post this?

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You could try a "dirty install"
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The problem is you can separate

the OS from the installed apps. You can clone but when you copy it back the thing thats slowing your system down is getting put back on you PC. The problem is when you install an app it might install a DLL or make a registry entry and when you do a clean install it install a clean registry and only the DLL windows uses. SO you have to think is having a faster machine worth the time reinstalling you apps.

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The problem is Microsoft

In context of what I am trying to do on the PC, and say here with my words -- your comment means that you agree. Microsoft couldn't possibly pull this off properly.
Microsoft invented the no pirating scheme. Microsoft invented the registry. Microsoft literally has taken ownership of all my software. I need an operating system to supply memory to my applications. Microsoft "offering" me to ransom them is simply outrageous. My applications may be buggy, but they were written that way. Linking them with their parts is the job of the registry, not the operating system. Microsoft has dug this hole so deep that they will inevitably lose the OS business. Sell your stock.

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How is that?

And if true, why not jump ship today?

Anyhow, the problem of casual piracy by copying the app's folder was a problem that needed solving. So in 1995, a big change.

If what you said was true, you would not be able to re-install the apps and instead of grumbling you would be litigating.

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You babble quite a lot of nonsense (n/t)

n/t

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Why not create your own operating system ?

That way you won't have to deal with Microsoft and pay their ransom Mischief
Here's a start for you Wink > A start for you <br>

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I'm creating a Welsh OS.

Going pretty good. I'm employing 10 sheep as this OS needs lots of ram. I don't see a lot flocking to get it, but we'll see. I'm thinking of calling it Lambux Mint Sauce because it's open sauce. And no, I'm not trying to fleece people, there's only a few counties in Wales will understand it. Oops, forgot Patagonia.
Dafydd.
Typo edit by mod.

Post was last edited on November 15, 2015 3:48 PM PST

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Most...

Most (not "all" but most) application settings are stored in your "AppData" folder, a hidden folder that exists in your User folder. In Windows 8.x (and 10) this folder contains three subfolders, "Local," "Local Low," and "Roaming." Most third-party application settings are found in the "Roaming" folder. After you have reinstalled your applications these entire folders can be copied to the new computer and your settings, like your email accounts, application preferences and whatnot, will then be present. In this way you can retain your bookmarks/favorites, your email settings, the settings of your graphics and office suite applications, your Usenet groups and status, the configurations you have set in video and audio players, and whatnot.

To access this folder, you need first to configure your Windows Explorer to display hidden files and folders. This folder is hidden by default.

Now, Windows 10 installs right over top of Windows 8.x rather cleanly and very nearly everything (except your printer driver) will work right out of the box with all settings intact. And the remnants of Windows 8 can be cleaned up easily afterward using disk tools.

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Thanks for the intelligent response. I can work with that knowledge.
Is it me or is that the smell of bugs that have rotted since the 90's ?

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Almost . . .

This would still require me to install each application, but it would save me from having to personalize each one. Now if Microsoft would drop their archaic "PiracyPrevention 1958" I guess we'd have Windows 11. More likely than not it'll be Linux.

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Reinstalling software after fresh install of Windows 10

I have reinstalled Windows (various versions) many times over the years and had to reinstall software I was using. This now includes Windows 10 as I performed a fresh install after the initial upgrade.
I make a list of my installed software and start by reinstalling the essentials such as an office suite etc. I don't reinstall everything and this gives me a faster machine. It's only when you come to do something you don't do very often that you realise you need to reinstall a particular piece of software and there are always items left on the list that I've never found a use for again! It's a good way of cleaning out your junk software that has built up over time.

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Truth to Power

I am simply amazed how some of you rationalize Microsoft policy. I think it shows a lack of innovation, and imagination. Think how easily this hijack of software could be solved. You can thank Microsoft for all the extra work entailed in simply trying to get their operating systems working; something that should work properly (if not perfectly by now) out of the box.

Yes, the problem has been around since 1995, but that form of pirating died with the advent of the internet. Yes, Microsoft offers to "fix" it for you for money. Yes, what I said is true, and YES there should be litigation.

Thank you for the sketchy workarounds, and I guess, the unkind words. Microsoft's behavior will change or be disrupted. And the answers to my original questions were 1) No. 2) Yes.

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If you dont like microsoft

If you dont like microsoft and totally disagree with the way they do things, then dont use it. there are plenty of alternatives.

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I'm seeing more and more folk that

Are fairly new to this old OS. The ideas that embodies Microsoft and their products are pretty old so the ideas of how an app can move around machines may cause folk that didn't work with Windows 1 to about Windows 3.11 and the changes in Windows NT (first versions of the registry) then 1995, well, how could one litigate on the OS doing what it was designed to do over 20 years?

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An incumbant duty

To Update.

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besides

by installing windows or their updates, you agree not to sue. You can only do the arbitration thing. The bad thing about arbitration is microsoft makes it difficult and expensive for you to do it. In addition the people that does the arbitration works for microsoft and want to keep their contract so guess who wins the majority of cases.

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MSFT policy condensed

1) WE have all the rights

2) You have ONLY the privilege we extend to you

3) Throw money at us

4) You broke it, you fix it. We suggest user groups around the net.

5) We are not responsible for virus, that's third party software

6) New computer? Pay us, again.

7) Upgraded? Call and beg us to reactivate. Say "Please". Don't you wish you'd kept it OEM now?

Cool Any update problem is hardware related, not our software.

9) We have one OS in many flavors, (OEM, System Builder, Starter, Basic, Home, Premium, Professional, Business, Ultimate)

10) We sell support. Can you speak Anglo-Hindi?

http://www.funtoosh.com/f_images/ms_tech_support.jpg

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Re: MSFT
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Too Funny!

Just shoot me!

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