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Forced to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10

Mar 7, 2016 11:03AM PST

Hi all,

I am being forced to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 by Windows! Please see the screen shot.

http://i.imgur.com/jBOTwkI.png

I didn't accept to upgrade. I do not want to upgrade. I did not click anything to upgrade. I am happy with Windows 7.

After looking at the screen shot, you will see Windows is only giving me the options of:
1. Start Upgrade Now
2. Schedule upgrade for an exact date and time (it states "the scheduled time can not be changed after this")

So, basically this is a forced upgrade!

I tried to "task manager close" this update window but it just reappears moments after. I don't see any other options other then "update it now or update it later at a specific time (which can not be changed).

Last night Windows automatically just started upgrading to Window 10. It didn't ask me if I wanted to. I didn't click on anything to upgrade. Nothing. In fact I stepped away from the computer but saw the upgrading in progress screen. It just tarted an automatic upgrade. After about 20 - 30 minutes when it upgraded, tried Windows 10 and don't like it. My video card acts weird on it. My screen flashes even after its fully installed and rebooted. I like my widgets that show my GPU, CPU, RAM and HD usage in real time so I know what's going on with my PC. Widgets are not allowed in Windows 10. I know a lot of the commands and locations for things in Windows 7 and I don't want to have them again. I have a feeling that more of my hardware is going to have an issue with Windows 10. After all these problems, I actually did a system restore to get Win 7 back last night. Now, today (less the 24 hours after the automatic upgrade) its forcing me to upgrade again by only giving me two options (both of which are to upgrade).

I may upgrade to Win 10 in a few years, but I don't want to be forced to do so now. Microsoft has been offering Windows 10 for free for a while now. If I had wanted it, I would have gotten it. I have seen the little window pop up saying "upgrade now for a limited time" almost daily. I see the advertisements on MSN's homepage to "upgrade now". Shouldn't it be my choice not forced if I want to upgrade? They are only giving me two options, both of which is to upgrade right now or in a few days. No option to "not upgrade" or "leave me alone"

I am frustrated about this. Any suggestions? The window to update is up right now as we speak.

Thanks

Note: This post was edit by the Forum Admin to include the referring screenshot by OP

Post was last edited on March 11, 2016 1:53 PM PST

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Can you supply some details?
Mar 22, 2016 6:38PM PDT

Such as machine, age, OS and your cleaning regime? I.E canned air and such.
Dafydd.

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many people after the upgrade
Mar 22, 2016 6:54PM PDT

seem to need to reinstall the driver files from their motherboard manufacturer or computer manufacturer's site. If they don't have current windows 10 files, then reinstall the windows 8 files using compatibility mode.

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After upgrade issues
Mar 23, 2016 1:11AM PDT

Had the poster been talking about a chosen upgrade then expecting to tweak drivers etc would be fine.
As Microsoft are forcing this update on unsuspecting users then they should be responsible for the continued compatibility of the hardware.
Its the same with anything that you had serviced or worked on. If the people carried out work you didn't ask for and the item then didn't work as well as it did before they would 100%be liable.

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and how do you propose....
Mar 23, 2016 8:34AM PDT

....to stick it to Microsoft for that? Personally I stuck it to them by moving to Linux. If one stays on windows, they can scream into the night at Microsoft, but if they want to stay with it, then it's up to them to find a way themselves to work around it. It might not seem fair, but what's needed is what will work.

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Microsoft is a pain in the ...!
Mar 22, 2016 9:04PM PDT

I HATE these upgrades! Every time there's an upgrade, another program/software won't work in the new version. There really needs to be some kind of workaround for these problems. I'm not a programmer, so I haven't got a clue, but c'mon....
For example, I've been using the same web design software for 10 or 15 years on XP. We have a HUGE site, approximately 800 pages printed out (humongous catalog). It would not work on anything after XP. I actually talked to the developers and said "pleeeeaase", but there are no more releases or updates to the software. Well, I have 3 processors with the first still running XP, and the other 2 have Windows 7. So what I had to do is download the XP Mode using Virtual Windows and am using that for our website on Windows 7. (I was afraid to keep using my XP computer because it's pretty old and you just never know.....and yes, I do backups, which is how I got it on XP Mode. But, having said all of that, if they keep upgrading and dropping previous versions, I'm up the proverbial creek because I know at some point, my programs will not work, period! I've purchased another program, but will have to enter those 800 pages all over again!!! Text, photos, shopping cart, etc. THEN what happens the next time??? I'm under the assumption those Microsoft people are fairly smart (?), so why can't they have some kind of "sub-routine" or option for people with necessary older programs that DO have the abillity to run on newer versions? Sorry to sound like I'm ranting, but I guess I am! I'm pissed!!

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Stay in there...
Mar 23, 2016 1:10AM PDT

As much as Microsoft want to coerce people to upgrade, they cannot force it. Their own size fits all approach is not cool. I'm still running XP, Win 7 and will be for many moons to come. These things don't just stop working because Microsoft has a new shiny toy OS to unleash.

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Windows 10 is superior to 7
Mar 23, 2016 11:46PM PDT

Thats funny that you're against the upgrade. I had 8 then 8.1 and upgraded to 10 day one (last summer). I love it. Let your antique OS die already

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i would but
Apr 20, 2016 2:03PM PDT

as many people are having problems with drivers to different things not working. as in my case the sound bar doesn't work, when i update to it. so i had to revert back to 8.1. meaning windows didn't do there job in updating all drivers to all systems to work with Windows 10. the sound bar works to the point that turned up to 100% the sound is buffered to 50%. i was online with a Microsoft Rocket Scientist. when they fix the problem when i told them exactly what is happening, then i will update, not until then. I have only ever used two Windows systems Xp and 8.1. when i learn how to usae them and hack them, no need to learn something else when what i have isn't broken. actually i think someone shoulod be a class action suit against microsoft. for forceable downloading. what if the car you drive works well, and they want to put another set of brakes on your car and they don't work,wouldn't like that. would you?

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It's Not Their Job
Apr 20, 2016 4:52PM PDT

Windows and Microsoft are not responsible for your drivers. In some cases, Microsoft sends out drivers but that is very limited. Drivers are your responsibility. You have to go to the website of the hardware manufacturer and get/download the drivers. Not every piece of hardware that you can buy has drivers supplied by Microsoft. You go to a store and buy a webcam, YOU have to look in the box and follow the directions for a CDROM or DVD with the drivers and the software. If you have an old piece of hardware, you need to check with the OEM of the hardware. It was NEVER Microsoft's job to do that for you as far back as Windows 3.0. So, rather than fall back to the old OS, you should have checked for new drivers. If the OEM had registered drivers with Microsoft (and PAID Microsoft), then that would be one thing. You might notice when you install drivers (some) that you get a message about the driver not being approved by Microsoft. The instructions usually tell you to click the continue button to ignore the message.

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Actually Microsoft is responsible for making drivers comp w/
Apr 26, 2016 7:37PM PDT

Actually it is their responsibilty to make sure ALL drivers work. Why because they instituted the download. I bought a laptop 12 months earlier with Windows 8.1 which worked PERFECTLY, "not Windows 10". As you said, And I qoute; If "I" go and buy a camcorder or webcam it is my responsbility to make sure I have all the drivers and necessary equipment to make sure the hardware works with the software. It is just like a car recall, it is the car manufacturers responsibility to repair and make sure everything is compatible. What would you do if they, said sorry sir your transmission needs a new part, it is going to cost >you< $2,800. When this happens please let me know i want to see you pay that. Now on the other hand you want a better faster transmission put into the 2016 Camaro you bought, it is your responsibilty to make sure everything works, not the manufacturers. Same scenerio here, I didn't ask for the recall.

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That tactic was tried years ago.
Apr 26, 2016 8:23PM PDT

History isn't helping you here. We have decades of Windows and not once has MSFT written or said they are responsible.

There are some thousands each year that lose all their files and again, not something Microsoft is responsible for.

If you feel otherwise, make your case, head to court to win the judgement.

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I have because of a bill I inherited because of Microsoft
Apr 27, 2016 10:39AM PDT

And under the Americans with Disability Act being hearing impaired, I am positive I will get my money from them. As says my attorney.

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When you win.
Apr 27, 2016 11:16AM PDT

Please top post your judgement and URL's for us to read.

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Where Did You Hear That From
Apr 27, 2016 12:09AM PDT

Your comparison is faulty! To correct that, if you bought a car and then bought a after-market product, whose responsible for making sure that your new radio or your tail fin body part actually fits your car? The car manufacturer? Of course not! When you go buy a webcam from a third party (even Logitech) do you think you can plug that into your USB port and it should work? Nope. You have to first load the drivers from the manufacturer of the webcam/Logitech and then, at the appropriate time, connect the webcam. I have one so I know. Does Microsoft support the driver? Nope. Logitech does. In fact, there will be a warning that the driver was not tested by Microsoft and you can cancel or continue. The manufacturer of the webcam says to click "continue". If Microsoft does not test nor distribute the driver for the device, why would MS be responsible. They never have been. The same if you had a different third-party piece of software from some manufacturer and you changed your OS and the software doesn't work anymore. Are you saying it is MS's fault? That they should guarantee compatibility? Nope. Doesn't and never worked like that. In fact, around the time Windows 10 came out, I believe it was Symantec/Norton who said that their product would not run on Win 10 and you had to upgrade to a "post Win10" version. You think MS is responsible to verify every single piece of software on the planet is compatible with every patch or upgrade they do? Of course not. And what about software written by you the consumer or your company? Sorry. Your responsibility to test that software. Same goes for hardware. It's always been the responsibility of whoever wrote the software to make sure it is compatible and tested. That is why MS releases beta versions of the OS so the manufacturing companies can do the testing.

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Exactly what I said
Apr 27, 2016 10:27AM PDT

If "I" and "I" repeat meaning "I" bought an after-market part which "I" did not, then, of course, I would be responsible for the product to work, agreed. But I did not. If I buy a product and something is changed on behalf of any of the manufacturers hardware or software the manufacturer is responsible for making sure everything works. As in the case when I bought my system it has Window 8.1, not Windows 10. I did not buy Windows 10 and I don't want it. I own my laptop. And bought it because my 10 yr old Dell, I finally put to rest. Microsoft should be responsible; they forced Windows 10 on people. I did not ask for it, purchase it. My system runs perfectly well on 8.1 as it was made to do. If Microsoft does it then what will stop any other manufacturer from pushing new hardware or software on you and making you buy it. If they weren't wrong, then why make a tool to revert back to Windows 7 or 8.1 because they know they did wrong. Look at it this way take the Apple Iphone, they bring a new one out every year and tell you that you have to buy a new one, your last phone won't be supported anymore, 8 months later; you aren't going to say something about it. My 8.1 system is working well and when I want Windows 10 I will go and buy a new system.

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Drivers were all there
Apr 27, 2016 10:36AM PDT

As I said the drivers were all there on my Windows 8.1 system. Why should I be responsible, for something I did not buy or purchase. Of course I checked for new drivers and that is why I reverted back to the system I bought. Again Windows 8.1. And the driver they had did not work and when I was talking with Microsoft they told me they would have to look into correcting it and reverted me back to Windows 8.1 until they can make a fix. Straight from the horses mouth. Microsoft.

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Forced windows 10 update response
Mar 24, 2016 8:20AM PDT

I have updated my 2007 desktop that had windows 7 pro to Windows 10 pro and I have no issues with the upgrade, I like the built in features, and I feel security is much tighter.

If people want to do stick it the older system, just remember when or if that machine hard drive fails, you will have to pay a higher price for the older IS on disc, and when they all stop supporting older OSes by reducing support for home version OS to 3 years, you may just have to go on eBay and purchase older computers with Windows 7.

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Hard drive failure?
Mar 26, 2016 1:57AM PDT

I have had hard drive failures. The only thing it cost me was the cost of a new hard drive and some time. Don't you know that the first thing you do when you get or make a new computer is make sure you have good copies of the OS? If you have disks, you put them in a safe place. If you have a computer with a recovery partition, then you immediately make recovery disks. You should never use a computer until this is done. That is why all my friends immediately bring their new computers to me. I make the recovery disks and put security software on them. I don't know why they refuse to learn such simple things, but the point is that it gets done.

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Disable windows update under local services
Mar 25, 2016 11:27PM PDT

you may find the only trick would be to disable windows update altogether

and then force restart your PC.

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Windows media centre
Mar 25, 2016 11:31PM PDT

I think a lot of people holding back off the install is they are using windows 7 and 8 for windows media centre on their TV. If they released a windows 10 version of this I don't think people would be so hesitant.

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What a bunch of bravo sierra!
Mar 26, 2016 9:55AM PDT

I too like WIN7 and do not really want switch to a relatively new WIN10. However, I have an ACER laptop using WIN8.1. Of course, it has a touch screen whereas the WIN7 does not. I do not particularly care for WIN8.1 performance wise and have been wondering if WIN10 might be worth looking into. I noticed ACER has a number of driver downloads for WIN10. Has anybody had problems regarding WIN10 drivers? Bearing in mind the WIN8.1 OS works much better after I downloaded the ACER drivers for that OS. Thanks for any help or suggestions!

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I had no trouble
Mar 28, 2016 1:13AM PDT

...upgrading my Windows 8.1 desktop to Windows 10. It performs much better than Windows 8 ever thought of performing and it is a much better OS. I didn't even need to look for drivers. I suggest that you take a drive image, just in case, and then go for it.

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Thanks, 4D.
Apr 4, 2016 12:17PM PDT

I think I will give WIN10 a try. At any rate, I have a WIN8.1 DVD which I suppose I can revert to if all else fails.

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(NT) Windows 10
Mar 27, 2016 3:55PM PDT
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Windows 10
Mar 27, 2016 3:59PM PDT

do not download nor install KB3035583

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Stop Windows 10 automatic upgrade option in Windows 7 or 8
Mar 28, 2016 4:08AM PDT

If you don't want to upgrade from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10, then just install this update from control panel KB3035583.

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Re: install
Mar 28, 2016 4:23AM PDT

I think this should be uninstall.

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forced upgrade
Apr 14, 2016 10:05PM PDT

I got the same message and after stalling as long as I could {Iloved my win 7} I took the plunge Now Ive got a pc that is as slow as dailup and it take ages to load anything Firefox used to fly but not now and as for Edge It will only open the pages it wants to
I mistakenly thought that Microsoft would have an operating system that would do its thing from the start without the user developing it But that was a pipe dream . Im ready to go back to 7 and dump this rubbish

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It sounds like your hardware is not up to Windows 10
Apr 18, 2016 10:38AM PDT

If you are having that much trouble then it is likely that you need to revert. Some hardware simply will not run Windows 10 well. Get it later, when you have a computer that will run it. Meanwhile, Windows 7 will be supported for another 4 years. I love Windows 7, too, but I have had no trouble with Windows 10. Of course, my computers are fairly new.