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For the rose-colored glasses crowd....

May 6, 2006 2:01AM PDT

I sincerely hope that you have been watching, CLOSELY, the news coverage of the downing of the British helicopter in Basra and the reaction and concern of the Iraqi populace.

These are the people(?) that were supposed to be throwing flowers in the streets and who we are paying for in coalition blood to 'free' them and give them a 'democracy'?

Isn't it time to get out and let the sorry b*s*tards stew in the own juices?!!

Of course, some of you will insist that the Iraqis set fire to the British tanks to provide a bonfire and have a wienie and marshmallow roast while singing coom-bah-ya! To you I say, 'Wake up and start living in the real world'!

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The Mehdi Army is not all of Iraq...
May 6, 2006 2:14AM PDT

Of course there is anti-coalition violence. Basra has been one of the least violent places. You have to look at the whole picture and all of Iraq.

I don't think anyone here will insist that "the Iraqis set fire to the British tanks (that's not even accurate) to provide a bonfire and have a wienie and marshmallow roast.."

Slightly biased posting on YOUR part, wouldn't you say? No one clained it would be easy, but progress IS being made. Propaganda such as you present doesn't help.

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May 6, 2006 2:50AM PDT

'Propaganda such as you present doesn't help'...

Keeping your head in the sand doesn't help either!!

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Whatever...
May 6, 2006 3:09AM PDT

I'm not keeping my head in the sand, but you seem determined to mischaracterize things anyway, so furthert discussion is pointless.

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Keeping you head in the sand...about what?
May 6, 2006 4:10AM PDT

That post had absolutely no value whatsoever. You did not refute his argument... you simply used a cliched phrase. Nice.

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william its people like you
May 6, 2006 3:41AM PDT

who by there words kill more of us then the enemy does arent you the brave proud freedom fighter.

you make me sick, wish we had a draft id like to see you on the line see how you like being shafted by his own kind.

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I wouldn't go that far...
May 6, 2006 4:04AM PDT

I just think it's am emotional overreaction to an incident in what is, after all a war.

And it's not fair to tar all theh Iraqi people for something done by a small group of a radical faction.

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(NT) (NT) Not a "small group" from the news report, EdH
May 6, 2006 4:14AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) and some collage types here huh dk
May 6, 2006 4:24AM PDT
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It's all relative...
May 6, 2006 4:26AM PDT
LINK

As troops in Warrior armoured vehicles cordoned off the area, hundreds of youths chanting "Victory to the Mehdi Army!" surrounded them, throwing rocks and then petrol bombs. Soldiers used foam to douse small fires ignited on their vehicles.

Smoke from burning tyres on the roadway obscured the view.


"Hundreds" is not a huge crowd, and there's no indication that they were all involved. Certainly doesn't seem to be as dire as portrayed in the other news story.

I sense that some (not mentioning any names) want things to be as bad as they can be. So sorry to disappoint.
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I feel the same way....
May 6, 2006 3:57AM PDT

.....when these horrible events happen. I even have thoughts how I would like to drop "the really big one" on them, and that if I had a machine gun I would gladly mow them down.

But after my intense reactions to such news, I then tell myself that most of the Iraqi people are good folks, and that they face the dangers every day that our troops do.

The time for arguing if we should have invaded there is over. We can't change that. We can't change the mistakes that were made. Whether or not there is already a civil war there is up for grabs. What matters now is that we shouldn't leave them without at least some ability to have some sense of security. There are glimmers that their elected leaders are trying.

So what I choose to focus on is to keep TPTB's feet to the fire to make damn sure the wounded get all they need on their return to our soil in the way of rehab, prosthetics, etc., and that we thank all of our troops for their service.

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Link to what William's discussing
May 6, 2006 4:13AM PDT
Iraqis Cheer Downing of British Helicopter.

>> A British military helicopter crashed in Basra on Saturday, and Iraqis hurled stones at British troops and set fire to three armored vehicles that rushed to the scene. Clashes broke out between British troops and Shiite militias, police and witnesses said.

Police Capt. Mushtaq Khazim said the helicopter was apparently shot down in a residential district. He said the four-member crew was killed, but British officials would say only that there were "casualties."

British forces backed by armored vehicles rushed to the area but were met by a hail of stones from the crowd of at least 250 people, who jumped for joy and raised their fists as a plume of thick smoke rose into the air from the crash site.

The crowd set three British armored vehicles on fire, apparently with gasoline bombs and a rocket-propelled grenade, but the soldiers inside escaped unhurt, witnesses said. <<

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(NT) (NT) The point? "They" cheered 9/11 too
May 6, 2006 5:27AM PDT