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For the last time...TV'S WILL NOT BREAK!

Hey, guys? Quit saying that my TV is going to break in 2009. IT IS NOT.

Over and over Tom and Molly repeatedly (yes, I know I'm being redundant) said (in Ep.527) that in 2009 due to the legal requirement that analogue TV be shut-down, my TV would no longer work--it will turn on but just not work. THAT IS FALSE. FALSE, FALSE, WRONG. I will still be able to connect various peripherals to it, like: a DVD player, an IPTV reciever, a Wii, 360, and/or PS3, and any other digital/analogue device that has an analogue I/O vis-a-vi (Did I use that correctly? Ha ha. Anyway, you know what I mean.) my TV. AND! it will work just freakin' peachy.


Almost forgot! the show!

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(NT) BTW, "TV'S" should be "TVs". Nitpicking.
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(NT) OMG, I'm going crazy! -> "TVs." :)
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I guess they should say:
"If you are using rabbit ears to get TV then your old TV will not get the signal anymore after the cutoff date that the US Gov't has chosen. After that date you will need to purchase a new 'digital' TV."

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more accurately,

if you insist on, or your only option for TV reception is over-the-air signals, you will need to upgrade to a digital TV in 2009.

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I learned something

Wow, I didn't know all of those peripherals would work in place of a transmitter box. I think the segment Molly and Tom are speaking to are the senior citizens and some occasionally TV watchers that only use the bunny ears. These people probably don't own a DVD player, IPTV reciever, or gaming system. Also, many people that have satellelite hook-ups sometimes use the rabbit ears to get local channels.

Its not so much that the TVs will break, but its going to be a way in which we change how we think about how TVs capture signals. For many people with 60+ years of thinking that way, its going to be hard to change.

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But I don't think that the 60+ crowd listening to Buzz Out Loud will find it much difficult to realize that technologies change--they're seeing that happen right now.

Or am I just being anti-senior-citizen?

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analogy for seniors - mechanical typewriters...

What will happen to the TV has a mechanical typewriter analogy:

TV ~ Typewriter
Analog TV signal ~ ink ribbon
Digital TV signal ~ (??? ...I need some help with this one)
TV picture ~ typewritten document

In Feb. 2009, typewriters will start to use ??? to create typewritten documents. At the same time, availability of ink ribbons will come to an end. The typewriter will still mechanically function, but the typewritten document that is its output will only come from using ??? because the ink ribbons are no longer available.

It's not a perfect analogy b/c you could say you'll stockpile ink ribbons, but I think it gets the point across. Improvements on this one are welcome.


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No, no, no.

It's like a big shoe...


In order for your analogy to work, there must be other ways that a typewriter could print a document--using the same typewriter.

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(NT) haha!...wait, maybe the shoe-LACES will be outdated? ;)
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No no no. It's like a SERIES of shoes (not trucks)

What better spokesmodel for the DTV transition than Senator Stevens?
Let's face it, now that Murder She Wrote & Matlock are off the air, there's no reason for the senior demo to watch OTA tv. They're all just watching the weather channel now... and that won't change. ...Unless Spike buys it & turns it to the EXTREME weather channel. If the global warming folks are right, that may be prescient programming! Grin

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(NT) Please, don't give anyone any ideas. :(
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Better Analogy

A better analogy would be:
TV = Computer Printer
Analog signal = Parallel Port
Digital Signal = USB Port
TV Picture = Printed document

You can buy an adapter to hook a Parallel port to USB, just like you could get an adapter box to convert the digital signal for your analog TV.

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(NT) Well done
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You do get some benefits on an analog TV by getting a digital set top box.

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No big deal at all

Standard def set top boxes for digital TV are very cheap. Old TV's will be useful for ages this way.
Only thing needed is education.

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PS Assuming you get such set top boxes in the states

I live in Austraia, where our government is planning to end analog tv around 2009 also.

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(NT) Australia, when is cnet going to get an edit function!
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TVs are small potatoes. Will IPv6 break the internet?

I saw (on Slashdot) that a date's been set for all net facing servers to be using IPV6. I can imagine this causing much more chaos than the demise of analog TV or the end of analog U.S. cellphone service next year.
Am I getting alarmed over nothing?

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IPv6 is small potatos

What about the transition from oil to say battery electric, hydrogen or whatever.

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No. You are well alarmed.

When technologies like this change, you should be a little edgy. As for chaos running amok, I don't believe things will be that apocalyptic--but I could be lying. I guess, we'll just have to see.

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well if you have a wii and you don't wear the strap say ...

good bye 50" TV

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If it don't work. It's broke.

It's a simple truth that if something doesn't work and it used to, it's broken.

TV's won't break as in pieces and parts for use in chicken nuggets. But they will break in that you will have to go get a fix to keep using them as a TV like you have in the past. Without the fix they will be scrap, or just low rez screens for yestertech devices.

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Now I'm beginning to wish analog TVs WOULD selfdestruct :)

How pythonesque. At midnite on the analog cutoff day, if every analog TV would explode, just imagine the lines at the big box stores the next day. I think the Consumer Electronics industry needs to start giving away free set top "penguins" for analog TVs. And they need to start doing it (as Molly would say in her best Schwartzenegger accent) "NOW!"

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ColorTV's from the 1950's can still work today

I don't have much of a problem with phasing out analog broadcast, except for what it does to antique TV's. It's ruining historic collections, man!

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