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FOLLOWUP: Scientists in e-mail scandal hid climate data...

by EdHannigan / January 28, 2010 3:50 AM PST
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7004936.ece

The University of East Anglia breached the Freedom of Information Act by refusing to comply with requests for data concerning claims by its scientists that man-made emissions were causing global warming.

The Information Commissioner?s Office decided that UEA failed in its duties under the Act but said that it could not prosecute those involved because the complaint was made too late, The Times has learnt. The ICO is now seeking to change the law to allow prosecutions if a complaint is made more than six months after a breach.
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A scandal usually involves either sex or breach of public
by Ziks511 / January 28, 2010 9:08 AM PST

trust by political figures, or civil servants working at the behest of their political masters. Look it up in your dictionary.

This isn't a scandal, its a controversy. Try to use words more accurately and less for emotional effect like Fox News.

These scientists, from a single university, have failed to comply with a British law, a system of law which you normally deride as secretive.

Rob

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Oh, really?
by Bill Osler / January 28, 2010 10:38 AM PST

You seem to be confusing a frequent use with the definition. The first definition I found when I followed your advise:
A scandal is a situation or event that is thought to be shocking and immoral and that everyone knows about
http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&hl=en&q=scandal
Also not that the example cited by this first definition was a financial scandal, not anything to do with sex or necessarily involved with political goings-on.

I don't see how you could claim that the scandalous emails mentioned in the OP fail to meet that definition. Personally, I have to think that suppressing research one disagrees with merely because of the disagreement is both immoral and scandalous, though I admit that the cynic in me is becoming increasingly hard to shock.

The more important issue is whether the scandalous behavior by those climate researchers changes anything of importance regarding the actual data behind the various climate theories, not silly attempts to redirect the discussion by making bogus claims about linguistic trivia.

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An interesting coincidence
by Bill Osler / January 29, 2010 8:46 AM PST

From Yahoo news:
U.N. climate chief Yvo de Boer says recent scandals over climate data are unfortunate but don't discredit the view that the earth is warming and humans must act.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100129/ap_on_bi_ge/davos_forum_climate_change
The point is that the word scandal was apparently used in connection with a comment by somebody who actually does believe in man-made climate change.

Face it, it's a scandal. It may or may not be relevant to the quality of the bulk of the science but it's a scandal.

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The worst part of this scandal
by Mike_Hanks / January 28, 2010 9:53 AM PST

is how the MSM is all but ignoring it despite the overwhelming evidence.

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Next I suppose you'll try
by Dango517 / January 28, 2010 12:02 PM PST

and convince me Hawaii is a continent. In the sea of scientific evidence supporting Global warming would anyone expect anything less then a little shady data from time to time. Some make mountains out of mole hills. Amazing Grin By the way, no wrong doing has been proven at this point. Accusations are not facts. Did you miss that part?

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Did you read the article?
by EdHannigan / January 28, 2010 12:17 PM PST

The Information Commissioner?s Office decided that UEA failed in its duties under the Act.


"would anyone expect anything less then a little shady data from time to time." YES! It's supposed to be science, not some stupid game.

Far from making a mountain out of a molehill. Youre postois totally bogus. WHY are you defending FRAUD?

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