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Firewalls - which to use

by nondaj / September 30, 2004 3:49 PM PDT

Have Panda antivirus which seems to cover all bases re spam, pop up ads, firewall, antivirus,spyware and anti dialer.

Just now learning about Windows firewall, antivirus and IE pop up blockers. Just read on line that have two of such programs can cause problems for one's PC and programs one has running.

Tried turning off Windows firewall as was told this was the biggest issue having two firewalls but it keeps coming back on soon as I log off and log back on again.

So question is do double programs of windows protection plus one's virus etc. programs cause problems? And how does one turn off windows firewall without it reinstating itself all the time?

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Re: Firewalls - which to use
by jdorisco / September 30, 2004 4:09 PM PDT

You didn't say if you have SP2 loaded on your system. If you do, the Windows firewall will be listed in the Control Panel. On the general tab - you'll see the "On" and "Off" selectors. Are these settings reverting to a default "On" position, whenever you reboot?

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Re: Firewalls - which to use
by nondaj / October 1, 2004 1:34 AM PDT

Completely forgot to list my PC stats:
WinXP service pack 2
browsers IE and Mozilla
Outlook Express as email

Yes the WinXP firewall goes to default each time I log off and back on. And have found the Windows Firewall icon in control panel so that is where I am trying to turn off the firewall.

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Re: Firewalls - which to use .......PS...
by John Robie / October 1, 2004 5:40 AM PDT

Microsoft has stated:

"...Using two firewalls on the same connection could cause issues with connectivity to the Internet or other unexpected behavior. One firewall, whether it is the Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall or a different software firewall, can provide substantial protection for your computer."

In the Microsoft Help and Support Center for SP2:

"In Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), Windows Firewall is turned on by default. (However, some computer manufacturers and network administrators
might turn it off.) You do not have to use Windows Firewall-you can install and run any firewall that you choose. Evaluate the features of other firewalls and then decide which firewall best meets your needs. If you choose to install and run another firewall, turn off Windows Firewall."

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 875356
How to configure the Windows Firewall feature in Windows XP Service Pack 2

It states:

"...If you decide to install and run another firewall, turn off Windows

In, an article by Scott Spanbauer
From the October 2004 issue of PC World magazine
Posted Friday, August 27, 2004
Under, "Tweak the Firewall" for SP2 one of his paragraphs echoes the MSKB
and the MS Help & Support Center:

"Once you've installed a bidirectional firewall, I recommend disabling the Windows Firewall altogether. Occasionally, firewalls obstruct an application
you're trying to use over a network connection--and there's nothing more frustrating than spending a half hour tweaking, disabling, and even uninstalling a firewall, only to discover that the other firewall was the culprit. To disable the Windows Firewall in the Security Center, click the Windows Firewall link at the bottom of the dialog box, check Off (not
recommended) in the next window, and click OK."

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Re: Firewalls - which to use .......PS...
by nondaj / October 1, 2004 10:17 AM PDT

Have followed your instructions, now have Security Center icon on desktop and all works beautifully. Thanks so much for confirmation of info that you provided. Now does this also apply to virus protection as I see WinXP service Pk2 has virus protection and I also use Panda virus protection? Gets confusing for us inexperienced PCers:)

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Re: Firewalls - which to use .......PS...
by John Robie / October 1, 2004 10:46 AM PDT

SP2 does not have a anti-virus program. Your Panda anti-virus should be enabled. I use Nortons on my WinXP and the free AVG on the others. I would also suggest the free AdAware and free SpyBot for Spyware.

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Re: Firewalls - which to use .......PS...
by nondaj / October 2, 2004 3:05 AM PDT

Thank you John. And will look into adware and spybot even though Panda has such features.

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Re: Firewalls - which to use
by nondaj / October 1, 2004 9:57 AM PDT

Thanks for tip John will follow through and see how I do. If have problems will be back:)

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which one should one use!!!
by AussiePete / September 30, 2004 6:28 PM PDT

Firstly, not sure if one should address one in the 3rd person or not - so "I" won't (only joking!!!)- I have not installed sp2 as yet (and wont for a while either) - I used Norton system works 2003 which includes a virus program - i also use "ad-aware" and "zone alarm" - when i installed Norton antivirus i was having troubles with "live update" and one of Norton's articles hinted at a possible cause being a conflict with "windows firewall". I managed to get antivirus working but it was not clear if this was the cause.
In any case after getting "zone alarm", which is a firewall program, I turned windows firewall off, as Zone alarm does the same thing and more. Zone alarm also provides an option to incorporate a third party virus program so I have not found any conflict between these 2 either.
To summaries, I have turned windows fire wall off as i found it redundant - not sure what some of the "Gurus" might suggest - but hey, I am still here and haven't had an active/fatal virus as yet!!!!

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Re: Firewalls - which to use
by TLuu / October 1, 2004 6:01 AM PDT

I don't have any problem with running third party firewall with built-in firewall turning on.
However, if you want to turn off Windows XP Firewall ( not recommended), here you go:
*Start->control panel->Network connection.
*Right click on local area connection icon ->Properties
*Select Advance tab ->Settings on Windows Firewall
*Turn off Firewall , then OK.

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