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Finally, a photograph of the

Mar 21, 2020 6:25PM PDT

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A question
Mar 22, 2020 4:01AM PDT

Did you actually listen to a live briefing where president Trump was asked about this? Did you hear his actual words? I did and I will tell you that this article does not accurately describe the whole of his thoughts. When all else is failing, medical people often turn to what's called "clinical trials". Sometimes these trials include existing therapies used for other diseases that have shown some promise...even if that promise is limited. If you've not heard the exchange between one particular reporter and Trump regarding this topic as well as a live session where his thoughts were presented, I'd be happy to offer to search for better links.
FWIW, your simply posting links like this without personal comments (outside of your title) are something I don't see as being useful to people who want truth.

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The hurry-up creation of an Ebola vaccine
Mar 22, 2020 8:01AM PDT

was one of science's great success stories, done without normal protocols. That was a great emergency, attacked with all possible weapons. Victory for the good guys. I followed that. Too late for Dr Khan.

"When all else is failing, medical people often turn to what's called 'clinical trials' "
I'm told that's the usual way, not a last resort. The trials involve controls, patient safety measures and other non-anecdotal methods. It's called the Scientific Method. I follow that.

"Sometimes these trials include existing therapies used for other diseases that have shown some promise...even if that promise is limited." That has been done here, including a drug for malaria and one for HIV. (Doctors have some flexibility with scrip writing.) I followed that. They didn't help.

Two men, one a certified top professional in the relevant field. The other, a politician, with a poor track record in handling the truth in many fields. He wants to make the call on outside-the-box testing. The price of failure is time and money wasted; both in short supply now.

"posting links like this without personal comments (outside of your title)"
So, you recognize the title was the personal comment. Not my first use of it, either. Here's a reminder.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Enemy_of_the_People
At least here they don't disappear.

It's true I don't watch the talking heads much. As noted elsewhere several times, I found that reading the best reporting I can find does as well, and faster. We all know of misinformation*, like the "drunken Pelosi" video, but it's the MSM that catches this.

If you have a link to a full Trump I'll be glad to watch it.

* Just in- https://apnews.com/dedd5a5f5367b1da634a1e84dbb369ed

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While you're at it,
Mar 22, 2020 8:58PM PDT
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... and now, another collateral ...
Mar 22, 2020 10:11PM PDT
Https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-gilead-sciences/gilead-puts-emergency-access-to-experimental-coronavirus-drug-on-hold-amid-surging-demand-idUSKBN21913Z
None of it can be put on Trump. Just another aspect of supply vs. demand vs. abject fear of the unknown.
Note the (accurate) reference to clinical trials. That is a speedup, like the Ebola case. Hope for the best.

Did you know there are doctors who experiment on themselves in these cases? Illegal, of course, but they do it anyway.

You'll recall our "Dr Bill Osler". The real one, his model, got the flu on the middle of the 1918 epidemic. Although he was arguably one of the three or four scientists who was essential to the fight, he put himself to bed for two weeks. He lived to fight another day.

You can imagine how he would have felt while "slacking".
I'll check the link.
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Not as simple as watching, it seems.
Mar 24, 2020 7:59AM PDT

Two hours every night seems like excessive, but the story is important.
My take, mostly from reading as you know, is that the 'nightly Trump rally' accusation has merit.