Exclusive: A Compromise Plan On Immigration

does not violate anyone's rights.

You seem to think breaking the law is okay when it suits you. That speaks volumes. The Pence plan attempts to solve a problem that you cannot deny exists.

Don't throw that "Good Christian" crap around. It is irrelevant and you apply it very selectively at best.

I know it's a constitutional amendment but just because someone is born here doesn't mean that he/she automatically is a citizen. I don't know of any other country where that is true.

That means that Osama could send his pregnant wives over here and have his children be US citizens and they could be the new wave of suicide bombers with no recourse to deportation because they are citizens.

Diana

The Amendement was never meant as a back door to people coming here illegally and staying. It needs to be challenged or changed.

That children of LEGAL immigrants became citizens at birth, so they didn't have to go through the immigration process like their parents did?

If the law has the word LEGAL in it, then it seems the kids and the parents can be kicked out together, keeping families intact...thus eliminating any fears about us being non-compassionate in that regard.

Cindi

be like any other country.

Dan

other countries guard there borders,try dan getting a job in mexico.try moveing in unlawfully.

What kind? Don't we need some laws? Does it make any sense at all that someone can come here illegally and make new citizens and thus get away with breaking the law?

The objection to Mexicans/Central Americans really has nothing to do with border security or their arriving illegally, EdH -- those are just smoke-screens, IMHO. It's the same nativist resentment that greeted the earlier waves of immigration -- those that brought most of our families to this country in the first place from Ireland, Poland, Germany, or wherever.

When I was in elementary school, it was a point of pride in my social studies books that we have the longest undefended border in the world (with Canada). During the Cold War, our free travel rights without having to show papers was one of the things that differentiated us from the Communist police states. We're not so slowly turning into a police state ourselves, and those who want to retain the American ideals of old are told we're out of step!

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on many levels. If you think open borders are a great idea I think you are sadly and dangerously mistaken.

You are wrong about the "Statue of Libety's ideals". That's not at all what the Statue of Liberty is about.
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But what else is new?

... especially from someone that can defend the use of the Uncle Tom slur.

Also the American ideals of old you wish to hang on to seem arbitrary at best. How about the ideal of the intact family that the welfare state has all but destroyed (more so in the "disadvantaged" population)? Opportunity and personal responsibility? Self reliance? Duty to country? Property rights?

If what you want is to retain American ideals, it's not going to happen if you allow an invasion from the South in the manner that is occurring. One would THINK that living where you do you are not quite so insulated from the realities of what is happening, but apparently not.

back then we didnt have scum flying planes into buildings, killing 1,000 in the name of allah.
plus why give these invaders any creedence.

when hitler invaded poland, france was that ok with you?

breaking the law has consequences. pack them up move them out rawhide yehawww

Dave, by that logic we shouldn't have deported Carlos Marcello (organized crime figure). He had a son.

Exactly what is immoral about enforcing the law?

Real simply: Birthright citizenship for the children of immigrants (legal or illegal) who are not citizens must end. NOW.

We are the only major industrialized nation that permits this to happen. While I realize that the right was placed into the Constitution under the 14th Amendment, we must realize that that was done to protect the freed slaves, whose status as slaves was originally written into the Constitution. Since slavery is no longer constitutional, why should a mechanism by which we sought to protect them after they were freed still be?

relatively painless way to get legal papers, without which you would have a hard time finding work. It's worth looking at.

I want it to be as painful as it is anybody else wanting to get into our country, though hopefully that will be streamlined.

As it stands, it is way too easy for people to get into the country, get jobs, and get lost in the system where nobody knows where they are. Why should they self-deport when they already have what they want?

Also, are they going to do a serious over-haul of our system so that criminals are not allowed in? So INF people are not rubberstamping people or breaking laws, themselves? So that the technology they have available is actually being used? So that they IDENT and other such databases are connected to the rest of law enforcement agencies?

There is too much wrong with our present system.