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by kulfi / April 6, 2006 5:09 PM PDT

hii all

i am using eudora 5.2 now i wan to change my mail client to outlook 2000 .. i wnt to export all files from eudora and import to outlook so any y1 help me ....
thanks in advance

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Please don't
by joesmithers06 / April 6, 2006 11:12 PM PDT
In reply to: eudora

The Outlook family of email clients, particularly those dating back to around the time of Office 2000, are particularly vulnerable to email worms and other attacks. No one likes being peppered with a bunch of email messages containing viral code in them.

If you want to switch email clients, look to use something like Mozilla Thunderbird which won't go spreading email worms. Anything other than Outlook really. You might even try a more recent version of Eudora, which you're already familiar with.

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You can
by Themisive / April 7, 2006 4:16 AM PDT
In reply to: Please don't

Import data by opening Outlook, going to File then Import/Export. On the dropdown menu that appears, choose the bottom "Import Mail and Adresses" option.

As for the likliehood of getting too many worms, viruses and such, this all depends on the level of protection you have. In the last 3 years I have had only 1 virus and some spyware, and of course the odd tracking cookie. The virus and spyware were easily cleaned by using a real-time virus scan and a real-time spyware scan, you also need to be able to check incoming (and outgoing) e-mails for viruses and to have a good software firewall.

Keep the Spyware/Malware programmes and the antivirus programme up-to-date, and scan regularly, you should have no problems. Another thing you could do is to transfer to an ISP that scans your mail - including inside attachments - for you BEFORE you receive it.

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Or even better
by joesmithers06 / April 7, 2006 4:53 AM PDT
In reply to: You can

Instead of being ready to deal with the potential fallout, remove the possibility of the fallout to begin with.

Why, as a rational and intelligent human being, would I intentionally use some program I know to be prone to certain defects when there are numerous perfectly suitable (arguably even better) alternatives out there? Why, again as a rational and intelligent human being, would I go to great lengths to try and patch the numerous defects with one program with a collection of other programs? Each one potentially having unintended and undesired side effects and security issues of its own. All when I can just use one of the literally dozens of alternatives out there that doesn't suffer from the same set of maladies that afflicts the other? As a rational and intelligent human being, maybe you can explain that to me. I don't get it, and I've been trying to figure it out for a considerable amount of time, and logic just seems to keep bringing me back to the same conclusion each and every time.

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Don't Forget
by Themisive / April 7, 2006 4:59 AM PDT
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IEx, Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express were the only such programmes for a long time; result, they get a lot of problems with spyware where they are not adequately protected.

That being said, look at the latest news for programmes such as Thunderbird and Mozilla, the "pranksters" have realised there is an even more lucrative field here - after all they are Open Source whereas the Microsoft ones are not. They've just been around longer.

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News to me
by joesmithers06 / April 7, 2006 8:52 AM PDT
In reply to: Don't Forget

I keep a fairly close eye on Firefox and Thunderbird developments newswise, and haven't seen a thing even remotely like what you're describing. In fact, the only things I CAN come up with, are some postings to the various bugzilla lists for the respective projects which I'm still debating on if they were intended as jokes or not. That being the person who claims a bug in Firefox's history allowed her to figure out her boyfriend was visiting porn sites or something like that, and then someone who basically claimed that Thunderbird let them read their significant other's email (on the same computer) and this lead to the discovery of their having an affair.

Like I said, I'm still trying to figure out if those were posted as jokes or if the people were actually serious. It's a sad testament to today's society that I even have to stop and think about it at all. Still, I fail to see how anyone plans to get rich off of either of these events.

I have yet to see even a proof of concept bit of spyware or otherwise malicious code devised explicitly for either of the Mozilla branded programs. Not to say it isn't possible, but you would be hard pressed to cause the same sort of wide spread damage that Outlook did during the rash of email worms that effectively shut down email systems the world over... Repeatedly, and for many years. Not since the original Internet worm has there likely been such widespread damage done by a single program.

And even if Outlook weren't the scourge of the Internet for being a breeding ground for this sort of thing, it's not that great of a program. Maybe it's because I don't get the idea of having one do everything program. Partly because I know it leads to exactly the sort of problems being debated here. Partly because I know I'm never going to use half the features. Partly because Microsoft's Windows Office team can't design a decent user interface for the life of them.

To say that Microsoft programs are "picked on" because of their popularity is to overlook the very obvious and glaring fact that they are also EASY TARGETS. ActiveX is binary code being run on your computer, without any of the sandboxing safeguards you get with Java. Outlook, for many years, was configured to execute ANY scripts embedded in email messages. Why there's even a need for embedded scripts in email messages is a much more fundamental question Microsoft should be pondering. Microsoft's webserver IIS, until its most recent version, shipped with all features turned ON by default. So admins had to go in and manually turn OFF every feature they weren't going to use. Is it any wonder why Microsoft's webserver was always getting hacked? All some admin, weary from switching off countless features, had to do was just miss a single feature to open the system up for attack.

Microsoft only cares about security when it starts impacting their bottom line. Former and current Microsoft developers are always talking about how the mentality is that security takes a back seat to usability. As a company, Microsoft still doesn't understand security, and won't bother to learn until it has a marked impact on their profitability. This is the conclusion a few minutes of thought would naturally lead you to, once you go beyond just reading the soundbites some Microsoft executive is trotted out to deliver to one of the many Fox News analogs in the tech world. Or executives of companies like Symantec, that generates the majority of its revenues selling products that serve as stopgaps to these very problems. You think the shareholders would be happy if they went around advocating a strategy by which Microsoft would eliminate much of the need for their programs? Kind of hard to sell subscription services to programs that aren't needed. So while it might be in the best interests of its customers, it will never happen.

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Just a comment...
by Gakada / April 7, 2006 5:37 AM PDT
In reply to: Or even better

maybe the real reason beside others... it is a given software.. you buy windows ... you get outlook... so, many people will just using what they get in the first place...

Don't be surprised if someone also just using Wordpad to create their business letter...

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