Environmentalist Destroying California, Creating Drought

by James Denison Apr 14, 2015 7:52AM PDT

Why am I not surprised? Seems the biggest users and wasters of water are the environmentalist, using fully half of all water in California on their projects, but at the same time excluding their water use from statistics so they can blame farmers who use ONLY 40% of the water. The farmers at least provide food and economic commerce which is better than the environmentalist who add almost NOTHING to the economy, while cheating on water use.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/416918/no-farmers-dont-use-80-percent-californias-water-devin-nunes

"This is a textbook example of how the media perpetuates a false narrative based on a phony statistic. Farmers do not use 80 percent of California's water. In reality, 50 percent of the water that is captured by the state's dams, reservoirs, aqueducts, and other infrastructure is diverted for environmental causes. Farmers, in fact, use 40 percent of the water supply. Environmentalists have manufactured the 80 percent statistic by deliberately excluding environmental diversions from their calculations. Furthermore, in many years there are additional millions of acre-feet of water that are simply flushed into the ocean due to a lack of storage capacity — a situation partly explained by environmental groups' opposition to new water-storage projects. ADVERTISEMENT It's unsurprising that environmentalists and the media want to distract attention away from the incredible damage that environmental regulations have done to California's water supply.....(more in article)"

Tar and feather the enviro-wackos and run them out of the state! They add nothing good to the state, they only take and then blame others. They are useless, a drain on society, producers of nothing, slanderers of others, leeches on the people.

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Response

by JP Bill Apr 14, 2015 2:36PM PDT

In other posts made by you, it's NOT Man, it's "mother nature" that is responsible for global warming/climate change....NOW it's "Environmentalists"

Of course,you also think there is NO climate change/global warming.....

Environmentalists responsible for a non-event.

Go figure.

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climate change has nothing

by TONI H Apr 14, 2015 8:48PM PDT

to do with this particular topic or what tree-huggers have done to NATURAL water paths. I've said for years that the water problems in CA were man-made and would one day come back to haunt them....unfortunately, the only haunting going on is that Jerry Brown has found another way to pull revenue out of the people by fining anyone they determine is using more than 'their fair share'....of course that won't apply to those who created the problem in the first place.

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Re: environment

by Kees_B Forum moderator Apr 14, 2015 9:09PM PDT

All I read in your oink about that 50% is that it is "diverted for envronmental causes" and "regulations and U.S. law have caused huge water-flow diversions for environmental causes"

Could you tell more about what 'environmental causes' that water is used for? Amd what 'regulations and US laws" are involved? I find it rather vague at the moment.

Kees

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the one main one I remember

by James Denison Apr 15, 2015 12:35AM PDT

Is standing in the way of water retention systems that wouldn't just let fresh water flow right out into the ocean, when it could be harvested and used where needed. They even got the Federal govt to interfere on behalf of their minority view wishes, against the citizens of the state of California.

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The biggest issue I recall

by TONI H Apr 15, 2015 2:21AM PDT

was/is that farmers were no longer allowed to farm in a huge valley area so water could be diverted to save a quarter inch stupid fish that does nothing to contribute to the environment in the first place. If I'm correct, another issue is that water was diverted to Las Vegas, NV because it had no water resources of its own. Will Brown fine Vegas for using too much water now?

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delta smelt

by James Denison Apr 16, 2015 2:32AM PDT

I think that's tied into the same situation I mentioned. They don't like yet more water to swim around in?

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Here's one example. 2.5 Billion gallons a year for.

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Apr 15, 2015 1:54AM PDT

http://chanceofrain.com/2014/11/deal-allows-l-a-to-plow-owens-dry-lake-bed/

2.5 billion gallons a year. If there is a drought, why not look again at uses like this?

As far as I can tell, the water use there does not grow anything and even with the new system in 2014 it's still on track to use 2+ billion gallons a year.

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maybe they should quit fighting...

by James Denison Apr 15, 2015 10:16AM PDT

...what could be an unintentional blessing, the Russian thistle. It would be great for dust reduction in areas like that.

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refill the Salton Sea

by James Denison Apr 16, 2015 3:09AM PDT

With seawater. It's already salty. Now it's a festering cesspool. It's below sea level by more than 200' , so if the pipes were well sealed, once the initial heavy pumping over higher land was finished, the siphon effect would do most of the rest, or at least greatly aid it. It would save the fish the environmentalist and state of California seem to feel should have died. From this, to this! I guess they didn't care as much for them?

http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/salton/ABitOfEden.html

"But I've found an Eden -- here
at the Salton Sea.

Eden exists at California's
largest lake in the vistas as one stands upon its shores and gazes at
snow capped mountains. In the brilliant sunsets that reflect gold in
the feathers of majestic pelicans, in the guttural cry of the snowy
egret as the sun lowers into the horizon. Eden exists in the spirit
of those people that use, enjoy and depend upon the Salton Sea for
their state of mind; their state of soul.

But Eden at the Salton Sea is in trouble as it
slips from our grasp and fades even as life fades from the eyes of
our suffering birds.....Ray
Jennings of the Salton Sea who at one time sold over a thousand
dollars each month in bait to fishermen, and who now shows a fraction
of that. People have stopped coming to his store; they have stopped
coming to the Sea. "

Why not fill Bad Water Basin too? It's over 300 feet below sea level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badwater_Basin

"At Badwater Basin, significant rainstorms flood the valley bottom periodically, covering the salt pan
with a thin sheet of standing water. Newly formed lakes do not last
long though, because the 1.9 in (48 mm) of average rainfall is
overwhelmed by a 150 in (3,800 mm) annual evaporation
rate. This is the greatest evaporation potential in the United States,
meaning that a 12 ft (3.7 m) lake could dry up in a single year. When
the basin is flooded, some of the salt is dissolved; it is redeposited
as clean crystals when the water evaporates."

Harvest the salt when it's clean, then flood it with sea water, make another inland sea. Practical people would figure out the way to do it, environmentalist would probably decry it.

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(NT) How about Nestle moving all those bottles of water out?

by Diana Forum moderator Apr 17, 2015 11:29AM PDT

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out of California?

by James Denison Apr 18, 2015 2:58PM PDT

Not great for employees, but maybe better for others there. Except for northern California, just how good in quality is the water in the southern part? I'd think it wouldn't be that good. Doesn't it all come there in canals and go past the farmers first anyway? Is there seepage back into the canals from the farmlands carrying fertilizer and pesticide products? I may go look up water quality reports for places like Los Angeles, or Riverside, or San Deigo which might have the worst quality water.

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