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Driver Needed XP 64 bit for Broadcom BCM4313

Mar 12, 2011 7:23AM PST

anyone know where to find this driver?
i need the 64 bit one, and the windows 7 driver for it wont work
but i cant find the 64 bit xp one
broadcom wouldnt tell me, they just dodge my questions about xp all together

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Let's try this another way.
Mar 12, 2011 10:21AM PST

That card usually is in a laptop. Is there a make, model of that laptop?

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And what makes you so sure
Mar 12, 2011 10:47AM PST

And what makes you so sure that one was ever made? XP x64 was never intended for widespread distribution, which is why it was only ever sold OEM. It was more proof of concept than anything. It had very poor driver support generally speaking, which wasn't a big deal because it was never sold retail, only OEM. Anyone building a system with XP x64 was supposed to know enough to build around that. Some people just can't seem to take a hint... Or a whole slew of hints... And well, here we are.

The driver you're looking for probably never existed. So, you have a choice between accepting this limitation, along with the others that will almost certainly crop up, and proceeding, or going back to something that IS supported. Smart money is on the latter option. The retail version of XP is already on life support when it comes to updates. Only critical level security issues will be fixed, and as time goes by, the severity level required for a patch will get ratcheted up. Of course the retail XP got SP3, whereas XP x64 was abandoned somewhere after SP2. So, continuing to use XP x64 would be to unnecessarily expose yourself to a significant amount of malware, viruses, and general unwanted pests over the retail XP which is already at a higher risk than either Vista or 7, both of which have fully supported 64-bit versions with considerably better driver support.

XP had a good run, far longer than it should have had, but it's time is at an end. Let's let it go out with some dignity instead of continually trying to prop the thing up for a little longer.

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o.O
Mar 12, 2011 11:25PM PST

ok, i know it may not exist. the laptop is hp g56-122 but hp wont even provide drivers for xp 32 bit but i found one that works for that somewhere. the reason i want to use 64 bit xp is because it will match my win 7 64 bit and ubuntu 64 bit. 7 is good, but no backwards compatibility, so i need xp, if i install xp, 7, and linux on seperate partitions, i always end up with a partition misalignment due to linux and swap being on logical partition, so i found a way to squeeze 7 and xp on the same partition. however if i use one 64 bit and one 32 bit windows the 32 bit program files go in Program Files and 64 bit go in same so they overwrite and one will not work, if they are both 32 bit or both 64 bit they will just share program files

Does anyone know any wireless card that has xp x64 driver that i can put in my laptop in place of the original?
or
Does anyone know how to rename the folder "program files" in xp or 7?
or
Is there a way i could edit the driver for 7 to make it work in xp?
or
Anyone know if windows 7 and xp can be installed on GUID Partitions?

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Re: need XP
Mar 12, 2011 11:45PM PST

1. Do an 'anytime upgrade' to Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate.
2. Download the virtual XP from Microsoft that runs under those 2 variants of 7. Fully supported.

Then you have XP without the needs for tricks like this. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx tells more.

Kees

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What are you talking about?
Mar 13, 2011 1:06AM PST

What are you talking about? Windows 7 has near full backwards compatibility. It won't do 16-bit program support, but I don't believe XP x64 will either.

A lot of people seem to get confused by the whole XP Mode option in 7. They think that it means that there's no backwards compatibility support without it, which they'd find out is incorrect if they just TRIED running some app. Probably 99.99% of apps that worked with XP will work with 7. One of the biggest selling points of Windows is its backwards compatibility. It's also probably the single biggest source of Windows' security issues. Even if starting tomorrow, Microsoft started following every single best practices procedure for writing secure code, they'd still be saddled by mountains of code that was written before that which they need to preserve to provide that compatibility with older apps.

Windows 7 uses the Vista driver model which is completely different from the Windows 2000/XP driver model. So there is no way to make them work short of having access to the source code and rewriting big chunks of it. Just by virtue of asking this question it is clear that even if you had the source code for the driver, you'd lack the skill necessary to modify it successfully. You're not alone, I'd be in the same boat.

And GUID partitions are used by Apple, and so to get Windows installed you need to use Apple's Boot Camp which provides the necessary low-level translation software.

But I'm betting you haven't even TRIED running any of the apps you think don't work, you just made an erroneous assumption. And if it happens that you have one of those 0.01% of apps... First off, odds are you should have updated years ago, but you also have the XP Mode option available to you as already outlined.

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i know about xp mode
Mar 13, 2011 12:55PM PDT

i dont really like using the virtual machine for things because it is running an os inside an os

so i think my best bet may be finding a wireless card that has a xp x64 driver

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Which still doesn't answer the question
Mar 13, 2011 1:58PM PDT

Which still doesn't answer the question of have you actually TRIED running whatever apps you think will not run on 7, or are you just assuming that they won't?

And good luck with that search. Like I said a ways back, XP x64 had very poor driver support because it wasn't intended for widespread distribution. Odds are, if they'd managed to get Vista out the door reasonably on time, XP x64 probably would have never been born. But the fact that it was a little known and little used OS, coupled with the fact that we've had not only Vista, and Windows 7, but Windows 7 SP1 come out means that you're looking at probably over 4 years on. The odds of being able to find any bit of hardware still supported that far out would be a challenge, let alone finding one for sale, that will work with your particular laptop, which also happens to have an XP x64 driver. Needle in a haystack doesn't quite begin to describe that scenario.

Every way you turn on this one you're going to find one insurmountable obstacle after another. And even if you somehow manage to find this elusive network card, which probably doesn't even exist, you have the issue of exposing yourself to a significantly higher amount of malware on account of XP x64 being an orphaned OS. Letting that thing loose on the Internet would be very ill advised.

And I'm not really sure what the problem is running an OS inside an OS. Pretty much every CPU made in the last 3-4 years, probably longer, has virtualization tech built right into it for exactly this sort of purpose.

We've tried the whole soft approach, but obviously it's going to take a bit more. What you're trying to do is never going to work, and it would be stupid to waste your time trying to make it work. Just try the bloody programs on 7, and I'll bet you a shiny nickel that they work just fine. No need for XP Mode or anything else. Install, run, the end. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning after surviving a plane crash while going to collect your lottery winnings that you won without ever even playing the lottery than you do getting XP x64 to work like you want. Give it up. Stop wasting your time, and that of anyone foolish enough to try and help you in the future.

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Driver.
Mar 13, 2011 2:23PM PDT
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that one is windows 7 x64
Mar 14, 2011 7:20AM PDT

but thanks for at least attempting to help rather than assuming that i dont have a clue what im doing. also i have all drivers installed except wireless, its the only one i cant find.

and jimmy, the first way i tried to run the old stuff was in 7, and it will not work
that is the reason i have installed xp to begin with, but i decided i will just use 32 bit on xp unless i find a 64 bit xp driver for wifi

still have the partition misalignment problem. it seems that if i have an extended partition not matter what i do there will be misalignment. this time however the extended partition itself is misaligned instead of all of the logical partitions inside it being misaligned.

i know it may be a bit off topic but anybody know which is better to be misaligned?

my guess is that as long as the logical partitions in the extended are aligned correctly, the container itself being misaligned shouldn't cause a performance hit

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My bad.
Mar 14, 2011 8:20AM PDT

I thought I read xp64 and you're right, it's just x64!

But let's try that other driver question. Did you remember what driver we need to install before a wifi card driver?

As to the misaligned 4K sector issue (I'm guessing that's your question) the speed hit on writing from XP is about 4 times slower than when its aligned. Since a majority of the time in windows is spent reading, you usually don't feel it till you do something like install apps.

Bob

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im drawing a blank
Mar 14, 2011 12:00PM PDT

what driver is needed before wifi?

does the nic driver need to be installed for wifi in xp?

and the misalignment is in the linux partitions (extended with 1 logical for linux and 1 logical for swap) so it should have no effect on xp

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The other driver is the motherboard chipset drivers.
Mar 14, 2011 1:50PM PDT

The reasons are simple. Such as the wifi card is connected to the chipset. The chipset is connected to the CPU. Without the chipset drivers, wifi cards may not be seen.

But it's time to toss in the towel on this card. HERE'S WHY.

To see if there was some hope I checked for Linux drivers and found no support for this card.

Seems a shame but for XP 64 I suggest you use some USB stick.
Bob

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This driver DOES HAVE XP 64 bit drivers in it.
Mar 14, 2011 1:56PM PDT

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; x64 (AMD64, Intel EM64T) - WinXP
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I take it that you didn't look inside. I had to double check, just in case.
Google for Dell's R267611 driver if you want.
Bob

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I had 3 drivers that were needed for my DELL
Mar 15, 2011 6:11AM PDT

Went to www.dell.com to get 2 since one was an ethernet connector that I needed and a friend got that for me, it does require an outside computer. Once online I sought out drivers for my Optiplex GX620 and put in my service tag - not the Express Service Code. This was once a work machine with from a person who gave it to me and I had all that info ready - it was WINXP Pro but it is now WINXP Home Edition. I had used a a recovery disk for that. This computer is inmy name and it is out of warranty. I needed a Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabyte Controller to connect to the internet. Two others were needed: SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio & for Video, Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family (2). All Three are in a flashdrive, along with all the info about my Dell. So, if my system crashes, I have the ability to resolve any problems, Darrell

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PS - There was a side by side comparision of 32 vs 64 bit at
Mar 15, 2011 6:21AM PDT
http://forums.cnet.com/windows-7-forum/ and the conclusion was you were better off using 32 bit. Though you would only have the use of 3.0 to 3.5 GB memory, I can add 2048 MB to my 999 MB [ it is a 2 GB memory stick ]. Bear in mind most items are in 32 bit format, including Office, Word. Also, I have already got the download for my printer for 32/64 bit. Darrell
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Odd.
Mar 15, 2011 8:16AM PDT

Here all the office is flipped to 64 bit. I wonder if some are stuck in the past and will miss all the great stuff.
Bob

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Follow the link below and ask if there is updated driver for
Mar 15, 2011 6:45AM PDT
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You may ask if there is one that is for WIN7 64 bit, downlod
Mar 15, 2011 6:48AM PDT

and save to the desktop. Put it into a Flash Drive and then install it. Darrell

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BCM4313 SUX
Jun 7, 2011 3:51AM PDT

LENOVO G460 SAME PROBLEM

THERES A FIX CALLED BCMWL564

SOME SAY IT WORKS

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XP X64 DRIVER BCM4313
Jun 7, 2011 4:25AM PDT
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(NT) A DRIVER FOUND
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lenovo
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(NT) A DRIVER FOUND
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lenovo
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(NT) A DRIVER FOUND
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lenovo
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(NT) A DRIVER FOUND
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here it is
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here it is
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here it is
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