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drive c defrag

by petekoz1 / March 3, 2005 8:07 PM PST

I set my task scheduler to defrag drive c on my hp laptop, windows 98, the defragmenting drive c window has been running on my desktop for 2 days and still shows 0% complete.

I have never done this since I've had this machine, but should it take this long, am I doing something wrong. Thks.

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Re: defrag
by Kees Bakker / March 3, 2005 8:57 PM PST
In reply to: drive c defrag

Pete,

Boot into Safe Mode, and disconnect your cable or adsl Internet connection. Then first run scandisk, then defrag. This should work in 99% of the cases.

Depending on the options you choose (including one that can't be reached via the GUI) defrag will take anything from 3 minutes up to a few hours.

Hope this helps.


Kees

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defrag c drive
by petekoz1 / March 3, 2005 10:05 PM PST
In reply to: Re: defrag

scan disc or defrag would not run in safe mode

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defrag drive c
by petekoz1 / March 3, 2005 11:46 PM PST
In reply to: defrag c drive

I got it going in safe mode, scan disc is now running, defrag could not run until I ran scan disc. I am receiving messages while scan disc is running saying it has restarted 10 times due to other program writing to this drive. I clicked yes to keep receiving this message, is this correct? Will scan disc keep runing and fixing all problems?

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Re: scandisk
by Kees Bakker / March 4, 2005 12:05 AM PST
In reply to: defrag drive c

Defrag can run without scandisk. It will do it's own checks and if it finds something wrong tell you to run scandisk to repair it.

In Safe Mode there should be no other programs writing to the disk. Please read through all of http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-6618-0.html?forumID=6&threadID=65052&messageID=772214 and go and find it!
Note that defrag also wants to run without interfering programs. And there isn't a DOS version of that program.

Kees

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defrag drive c
by petekoz1 / March 4, 2005 12:18 AM PST
In reply to: Re: scandisk

That's exactly what happened. Defrag started in safe mode, it said it couldn't run because it found errors and told me to run scan disc to fix the errors, which I am doing now. I will check and read the URL you sent, and I really want to thank you for you help and quick response. This is a great site which I use all the time.

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defrag drive c
by petekoz1 / March 3, 2005 11:50 PM PST
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also, during scan disc what does, for example, this mean: cluster 473,593 of 1,146,404. Is this fixing a problem on drive c?

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Re: scandisk
by Kees Bakker / March 4, 2005 12:02 AM PST
In reply to: defrag drive c

There are 1146404 cluster on your hard disk, and scandisk is doing something with cluster #473593. It should add some indication of what it is doing (like "repairing") if it isn't just scanning and finding no errors. Note you will only see this message during the surface scan. Which leads the question why you do a surface scan. It's rather uncommon to do so on a hard disk.

Kees

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defrag drive c & scan disc
by petekoz1 / March 4, 2005 12:37 AM PST
In reply to: Re: scandisk

To keep you posted and thank you: scan disc just completed its run, found and fixed several disc errors, defrag is now running fine (as it was not doing before) - all in safe mode. Looks like the issue is taken care of, thanks a bunch.

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Re: errors on hard disk
by Kees Bakker / March 4, 2005 2:07 AM PST

Time to prepare for a new one! Hard disk should be 100% reliable, and errors mean they are detoriating.

Kees

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Take a look at the disk map.....
by reefurbb / March 9, 2005 9:33 AM PST

at the same menu that gives you safe mode option is "command prompt only" which access the Windows-Command folder in DOS mode since the Pc is partially booted. At the C:\> prompt...
scandisk C:/autofix/surface which will show the surface area map that Safe Mode Scandisk Thorough won't do.
Look at where the bad sectors are: front; middle; rear; scattered, if that is what got fixed.
I use Master Booter (free but tricky) to make partitions, excluding bad areas other than scattered. This stops data from being loaded there, until the bad sectors begin growing outside that area. Granted, if there are very many or they keep happening, a new Hdd in certainly in order.
Note: all data must be off-loaded, re-loaded, usually using someone's else's PC and a spare hdd (easiest), before using this. Note also that Master Booter will allow you to create up to 4 primary partitions.
I had some Hdd's fixed this way that are still useable (3gb to 6gb), and some that still deteriorated.
Still, it can be useful to know where bad sectors are developing.

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Petekoz1 Your Solution
by elasurj / March 9, 2005 4:06 AM PST
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Well Petekoz1 this is what i've been experience with some Computers but the fact will remain that Windows 98 has the slowest defragmenting Utility but you can try these following option;
1. Check for the Processor speed. it might be of a slow speed that it cannot run The Defrag utility to your expectation.

2. I would recommend that you Upgrade to Windows ME though it Hangs but it has one of the Best Defragmenting Utility. Think about this

Thanks for your concern
Elasu Moses
Institue of Computer Science
Makerere University
Kampala
Uganda

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elasurj... that's not necessary...
by reefurbb / March 9, 2005 9:39 AM PST
In reply to: Petekoz1 Your Solution

1. ME costs $$$.
2. I think ME sucks and some new drivers may be needed.
3. Just copy Defrag.Exe (208kb) to a floppy and drop it into the Windows98(SE) folder. "do you want to replace Defrag.exe 248kb with this one? Yes. Or you can choose to pull out the old file and save it. I've been doing this for 6 mos and it works Fast without having to have the full ME, nor problems...

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Drive C Defrag.....
by blueboy888 / March 11, 2005 12:34 AM PST
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Scan Disk & Defragmentation can be carried out in normal start up without any hassels by adopting the following procedure:
1. Press CTRL + ALT + DEL and bring your task manager or otherwise called 'close program'
2. Except 'Explorer' and 'Systray' remove all other programs, by selecting each and press end task.
3. Go to Start>programs>accessosaries>system tools>scan disk. Click on it.
4. Perform the scan disk first. You may perform this task on each drive or you may click on 'ALL'.The task will be performed on all your drives.
5. Then follow item 3 above and click on defrag and select the drive. I fail to understand why MS has not provided the 'All' here. According as to the size of the drive it takes 1 to 2 hrs time for each drive.
I have C,D,E,F partitions and it took around 2 hrs for each partition.
I hope this will solve your problem.

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drive c defrag
by cgrisham / March 12, 2005 9:15 PM PST
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Windows ME. Neither scan disc nor defrag will execute. Both appear to try, but end up with no execution after considerable run time.

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