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Does the man think BEFORE he speaks?

Jan 1, 2017 12:11PM PST
Trump: I also know things that other people don't know' about hacking

Just THINK about it....then get back to me...IF you want.

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That's what has bothered me personally about
Jan 2, 2017 5:01AM PST

the campaign and the runup to POTUS. (Did I get that right?)
I'm old enough to remember "Tailgunner Joe" McCarthy, R-Wisc, during the Red Scare of the Fifties. He would take the floor saying, 'I have in my hand a list of [so many] members of the Communist Party who have [various] high positions in the US Government...' No one ever saw the list or heard the names. Of course there was no such list, but many careers and lives were ruined. Only lawyer Joseph Welch, cartoonist Walt Kelly and very few other public figures dared to oppose him.
Worse, many ordinary citizens fell in behind his rants, which was Joe's goal and extended the length of the situation. That was at the beginning of the TV era, when people still read newspapers and magazines, and the sound bite hadn't reared its head.
BTW I also saw such things from the Other Side, but she didn't win, so no one pays attention anymore.

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For all the historical blather about McCarthy
Jan 4, 2017 2:01AM PST

...He was more correct most of the time than not. What we are going through with the Muslim problem today is what they were facing with the Communist problem at that time.

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Censured by his fellows but remained in Senate.
Jan 4, 2017 10:44AM PST

(Reelected by the people.) Died young of alcohol-related causes.
Founder also of a "lavender scare". Roman Catholic. DFC as a Captain, Marine aviator, WWII.
Defeated populist Bob LaFollette for Senate.
I apologise for using Wikipedia, but the article seems accurate.

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Do you consider everything on that list
Jan 4, 2017 11:15AM PST

to be black marks?

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Just cutting through the "blather" with facts.
Jan 5, 2017 5:44AM PST

He's not a poster boy for anything but demagoguery, in spite of any of the positive things; remembered as such. Almost like posting "Hitler". Happy

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Wow, you are certainly going to be shocked
Jan 5, 2017 10:06AM PST

when you meet God in person and find out how He feels about the type of people McCarthy was going after. God by no way and no means approves of them, especially the "lavender" group.

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It's very possible
Jan 2, 2017 6:04AM PST

Why??...because the statement is generic. He didn't specify who the people were who knew less and he didn't say where he got his information. If he's been included in US intelligence briefings, he's probably heard a few things about hacking. It wouldn't need to be much but he'd certainly know more than some tribes people of South America who'd had little or no contact with those outside of their own neighborhoods.

Now this doesn't make him an expert on hacking but it could make his statement true. I'd say his statement is deceptive but not false. I imagine he's very skilled in the area of marketing and marketing is more about creating perception than about unimpeachable honesty.

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RE:It's very possible
Jan 2, 2017 7:06AM PST

I'd say his statement is deceptive

I agree....He's already sent out his surrogates to downplay what he said....The "big reveal" is Tuesday OR Wednesday...

He didn't even say that he knows things about "hacking"...He said he knows things other people don't know....THEN he mentions "hacking"

HE knows what HE does in HIS bathroom?

When asked what he knew that others did not, Mr. Trump demurred, saying only, “You’ll find out on Tuesday or Wednesday.”

No word YET on which Tuesday or Wednesday.... OR if it will be a Tuesday or Wednesday in 2017

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The charitable view is that he awoke that day
Jan 2, 2017 8:16AM PST

with a severe cough, and none of his staff knew it at that time.
(Think about it.)

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"Hacking" has other meanings.
Jan 2, 2017 9:25AM PST

It's also a method of raising orphaned or abandoned baby animals so that they don't become imprinted or dependent on humans. You mentioned surrogates and surrogates are sometimes used for this purpose too. In this way, these animals can grow and have a good chance to be successfully released into the wild. Maybe Trump knows something about wild animals...of the four footed or winged type of course. My guess is that very few computer nerds know about that form of hacking.

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For at least the last ten years
Jan 2, 2017 3:01PM PST

and probably longer, most computer USERS are aware of the fact that you DON'T click links in's nobody's fault but Podesto's that he was stupid, stupid, stupid and gave away his password to, so far, an unknown entity. It may well have been Russia, but how many people have fallen for the "my uncle will pay you a third of the wealth he has if you will let him put it all into your bank account that he can deposit it into" email? Doesn't it, even a little bit, seem strange to you that BO didn't do ANYTHING in retaliation against China for the millions of fed workers' personal information they stole a couple of years ago, and did NOTHING against Russia prior to this, even AFTER BO said personally in an interview that there was NO evidence that Russia was able to alter the election?

I'm not buying one thing THIS administration has to say about ANYTHING because they have LIED to the people from day one and every single agency/dept has been corrupted. When Trump gets in and he has his OWN people looking at this, we'll find out facts rather than the crap that has been dished out for 8 years already. Comey has another mandatory seven years to his term, unless he resigns voluntarily and I don't see that happening, but it was NEVER his job to recommend whether charges would be was ALL on Lynch's shoulders and SHE is guilty of dereliction of duty.

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RE: Comey has another mandatory seven years to his term,
Jan 2, 2017 7:46PM PST
Comey has another mandatory seven years to his term, unless he resigns voluntarily and I don't see that happening,

Here's my New Year present to you, TONI H..

Let TheRUMP "handle it"...Notice this report was compiled under the administration of the man you despise....

But according to a 2014 report by the Congressional Research Service, “there are no statutory conditions on the President’s authority to remove the FBI Director.” In other words, the President can indeed fire the FBI director. An FBI director can also be removed by congress, through the impeachment process.
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I can Trump
Jan 3, 2017 7:11AM PST

making a 'deal' with Comey......stay and actually DO your job, which includes NOT making public declarations about any possible pending or no charges because you don't have that authority since only the DOJ can do that or hear my infamous "you're fired" and if it's with just cause for that firing your entire career benefits may be lost.

Since Comey IS a career FBI person, I suspect he'll choose to stay so he has the opportunity to redeem is credibility. He'll hand over everything they had regarding the investigations to the new DOJ head and that person will ultimately make the decision about what to do.

I can also see BO during his last hour giving pardons to hilLIARy, her staff, Bergdahl, and Snowden..........but giving pardons to people who have not been charged with any crimes would include all of them basically admitting guilt of those crimes because otherwise they wouldn't need a pardon.

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(NT) No comment, surprise
Jan 4, 2017 10:28AM PST
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RE: No comment, surprise
Jan 4, 2017 12:52PM PST

You want a comment?

OK...Your post is ALL speculation.

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Isn't that what you did
Jan 4, 2017 1:46PM PST

with regard to Trump spending taxpayer money in another post/thread? If YOU can speculate, why can't I? Because mine make sense, I think. And at least SOME of MINE have already come true with regard to BO and hilLIARy and Trump.

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RE: If YOU can speculate, why can't I?
Jan 4, 2017 8:03PM PST

You can...go ahead...speculate....

When/IF I respond and tell you it's speculation...don't get upset....also don't No comment, surprise expect me/ to respond to "speculation".

I will OR I won't respond...MY choice...

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Jan 3, 2017 7:31PM PST

Tuesday or Wednesday has been moved to Friday....

TheRUMP knows something others don't know...he has to attend a meeting on Friday......for what purpose?

To find out what HE "knows", that others "don't know"?

According to a new report, Donald Trump's "delayed" meeting with intelligence over Russian hacking was always scheduled for Friday.

Trump tweeted Tuesday night that a planned intelligence briefing on Russian hacking, previously expected to take place early this week, was pushed back to Friday.

The president-elect insinuated that the meeting was delayed because intelligence agencies don't have enough evidence to prove Russia's involvement.

Trump and the truth

This man is a pathological liar. He doesn't know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And he had a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook. His response is to accuse everybody else of lying. He accuses everybody on that debate stage of lying, and it's simply a mindless yell. Whatever he does, he accuses everyone else of doing. The man cannot tell the truth, but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country has ever seen. Donald Trump is such a narcissist, that Barack Obama looks at him and goes, ‘Dude, what’s your problem?’ Everything in Donald’s world is about Donald. And he combines being a pathological liar, and I say pathological because I actually think Donald—if you hooked him up to a lie-detector pass, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing at noon, and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he'd pass the lie-detector test each time. Whatever lie he’s telling, at that minute he believes it, but the man is utterly a moron.

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You are confused
Jan 4, 2017 2:03AM PST

You were describing Obama.

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RE:You were describing Obama.
Jan 4, 2017 3:53AM PST

Those weren't MY words..(but I agree with them)....And Cruz was describing Trump.

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And did Cruz lie to the American people
Jan 4, 2017 5:40AM PST

regarding his 'anti-establishment' position but used the establishment to push him closer to the win of being nominated....and even then, on the podium of that nomination event, he was booed by the delegates on the floor for his statements because he was also joining the 'anti-Trump' coalition by telling those delegates to vote their conscience instead of voting the will of the people who elected them.

Rubio did the same thing....swore that he wasn't running for the Senate again because he wanted to be president and ran on the 'anti-establishment' platform. Then turned around and wrapped his arms around the same establishment, lost the nomination, and ran again for the Senate (and barely won that seat back) in order to preserve the majority in the Senate.

Trump wasn't the only one on that stage that exaggerated his positions, JP....or even outright lied. They almost all, but HIM, lied when they said they would support the ultimate nominee when they raised their hand at the first debate..... Some got over it immediately and backed him as they dropped out; others STILL can't do it and they've all kissed those political dreams goodbye.

GWB and his family didn't support Trump publicly....I can understand that position because of things that got said during the campaign; however, GWB and Laura are going to the inauguration as are Bill Clinton and his lyin' wife (which I did NOT expect from the latter considering not only how nasty she was during the campaign, but even since then).

The ones who DON'T think before they speak are actually the Dems and the liberal news media that have made totally ridiculous statements and outright lies that they are now trying to backpedal on.....including calling him a 'moron' when he's been absolutely brilliant in his ability to outsmart not only the media but the entire Clinton/BO machine that was put into place to battle every Rep candidate....even to the point of stating a year ago that they WANTED Trump to win because they believed a few of the others would have had a better chance of defeating her and that he was an easier target.

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RE:They almost all, but HIM, lied when they said they would
Jan 4, 2017 6:05AM PST
They almost all, but HIM, lied when they said they would support the ultimate nominee

The ONLY reason TheRump didn't lie IS........He was the "ultimate nominee".



Donald Trump said Tuesday that he would no longer honor his pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee for president, while fellow candidates Ted Cruz and John Kasich refused to say whether they would back the party’s pick.

All three GOP contenders appeared at a CNN town hall in Milwaukee one week before Wisconsin’s April 5 primary.

When asked if he would keep the pledge he signed last September, Trump responded, “No, I won’t.” The real estate mogul explained that he was taking back the pledge because, “I have been treated very unfairly,” and listed the Republican National Committee and party establishment among those he believes have wronged him.
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Nearly two years ago
Jan 4, 2017 6:36AM PST

and he was smart enough to see that the others were already probably going to renege on THEIR promise from the FIRST debate.....Why would ANYONE expect that HE wouldn't react the same way? The ONLY one who actually DID support him from the entire RNC and those candidates at that time was the HEAD of the RNC, and he was RIGHT to continue to defend Trump's legitimacy as a serious contender.

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RE:Why would ANYONE expect that HE
Jan 4, 2017 7:19AM PST

Why would ANYONE expect that HE wouldn't react the same way?

Because HE is going to bring "change" to Washington?


So NOW you're not denying that Trump reneged?

One small step for giant leap for mankind.

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But Trump DIDN'T renege did he?
Jan 4, 2017 10:35AM PST

He stayed on as a REP candidate and said later that he WOULD honor that promise/pledge.....even knowing that there was a strong anti-Trump movement going on from some establishment Republicans. He COULD have changed out to an Independent candidate, but didn't....and I believe he STILL would have made history by winning and becoming the first Independent to do so.

Again, with the wrong quote, even AFTER you've been corrected. You just can't help yourself with continuing the lie like all other liberals....I watched a bunch of them repeating the Obamacare lies this morning. Some things NEVER change and it's what defeated the Dems for the last 8 years and will continue to do so until there is no Dem party anymore except for a few hard core lefties like Warren (who is already contemplating a run in 2020) and Sanders. Let's hope so because it will be another win for the Republicans across the country and more seats in Congress as well as the Oval Office.

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Lies and Leading Questions, but...
Jan 4, 2017 1:01PM PST real substance, the essence of neo-Liberalism today.

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RE:Again, with the wrong quote,
Jan 4, 2017 1:15PM PST

The wrong quote for?


I'm sorry if I didn't provide proof to support YOUR argument.

Just because it's colder in the winter in Canada...doesn't mean my brain is frozen.

When Virginia gets a cold spell I can understand if that happens down there...

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Typical liberal....
Jan 4, 2017 1:47PM PST

you run out of debate material, so the personal insults predictable.

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RE:you run out of debate material
Jan 4, 2017 8:19PM PST
I run out of debate material?

TheRUMP didn't "renege" because he didn't get the opportunity to...If he coudda' he woudda'

YOUR words

he was smart enough to see that the others were already probably going to renege on THEIR promise from the FIRST debate.....Why would ANYONE expect that HE wouldn't react the same way?

Are you now arguing with yourself?
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If nothing else, Trump has convinced
Jan 5, 2017 5:34AM PST

EVERYONE, including those within his OWN party over the last few days, that he IS as unpredictable as he SAID he would be during the debates. Everyone believed he was a 'clown' and he's proved you all wrong...he told you the TRUTH, you just didn't want to hear it....but the PEOPLE DID.