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Do your part to help defeat Democrats

Jan 27, 2004 3:30PM PST

Remember; Call your local Democrat office and ask them the following. Let's all help them spend up their money. Republicans should take full advantage of Democratic socialism.

1. Can I get a ride to the polls? ? help them spend their money during the primaries so they?ll have less during the national election.
Have them take you the scenic route and stop off and do some shopping on the way home.

2. Are you giving anything away free for voting democrat? Cigarettes, booze, box of cigars, box lunch, etc. Ask for two of each.

3. Send 25 cents in the mail to the DNC and watch how much they spend on mailing you to give to the party. Always send their solicitation back to them with all associated literature in the prepaid envelope included in the mailing. They have to pay that postage
upon return. Great way to help them spend money and keep you up to date on their propaganda.

(borrowed from a friend)

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Now there's a thought, James...
Jan 27, 2004 5:08PM PST

James, you just gave me an idea. What the hey, it could be fun. Methinks that I may try asking for information about a ride to the polls. Why? it could could be fun, although I predict that Dave K. will hate my idea of "fun". What fun? The fun of seeing if they try to determine if I was a Republican or Democrat and/or how I might vote. Some fun, eh, what?

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You can vote for a Democrat in the Democratic primaries. ;-) -nt
Jan 27, 2004 5:20PM PST

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Timing is all, Rosalie...
Jan 27, 2004 5:39PM PST

Rosalie, timing is all. I'll wait to run that little experiment till' the November Presidential election.

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I think Rosie's got the idea!
Jan 27, 2004 11:42PM PST

Go down on primary day and vote in the Democratic one and you are a shoo-in for November election day transport. Mutter "damn republicans!" under your breath a few times, but loud enough it can be heard and you will be their darling.

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Idea for more fun...
Jan 28, 2004 10:49AM PST

Moving along to even greater fun. Remember the stories about teams going to areas where there were homeless, etc. types and then transporting them to the polls (sometimes, supposedly with inducements)?
Here's an idea for a story idea for a TV network and/or station: Research and identify an area where this happened before, they tend to return to "winner" areas. Then get a small group of people, dress them appropriately, and wire them. Oh, don't forget the icing on the cake, have half of them put a Bush campaign button somewhere on their "costume" and have the other half wear a (whoever the Democratic canidate turns out to be) button. Those people need to be in teams, one of each. The idea is to always persent the transporter (vote collector) with a choice and/or the opportinity to collect people who appear to be from both views.
The drill is to see if the transporter/collectors pick and chose. Note to crew dogs: Whatever your button, if offered an inducement and/or ride, take them both, and MOST importantly keep rolling tape during the ride to see if they try to influence your vote. When you get to the polling place, quietly wander off and take a cab back to the net (without even attempting to vote, of course). Do not re-launch to the same area, if the transporters/collectors recognize faces, it would blow the cover.
For additional footage to flesh out and/or add variety, go to a few nursing homes who have scheduled people to come in and "help" the residents do their absentee ballots, wire some volunteers, and see how they are "helped". Heck, I kind of like that one myself. I'd even volunteer to let a network dye my hair grey (I'd pass, trust me) and let them commit me to a target (demanding the same "safety" deal that I had with CNN, of course). Methinks this sorry idea might well yield something well worthy of air tme.
Just a thought. I'm toying of the idea of mentioning it to some the network news types with whom I am still in contact. Dave K., Republican or Democrat is no factor, once a "news junkie", always a "news junkie"- the story is all, "heaven" is air time. Straight up and honest, Dave, if a reporter "pulls a Newt" and does something like intercepting and recording cell phone conversations, that reporter should be "burned". No "staging",etiher. Arrive, observe, and report.

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That would be fun, but you don't need nursing homes.
Jan 28, 2004 5:04PM PST

Just take it slow at the polls, do your voting in the mornings between 10am and 3pm when all the old folks come out between the rush hours, and watch them dodder with their "helper" to the voting booth. Some of them are barely sure of their name, many are surprised by the address they are supposedly at, and then you can hear the "helper" showing them who to vote for. "You wanted the Democrat? No? Are you sure, yesterday you said you wanted ----------, you didn't forget did you? No? OK, just put a mark here for the Democrat. No! not there! Here!!"

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Nice story. Too bad you twisted it...
Jan 28, 2004 5:50PM PST

"You wanted the Republican, not the Democrat! Come on you're acting childish. Yesterday you said you wanted ----------, you didn't forget did you? No? OK, just put a mark here for the Republican. NO! NOT THERE! HERE!!! DAMN YOU, YOU MARKED THE WRONG BOX. CAN'T YOU DO ANYTHING RIGHT?"

Compassionate Conservatism? NOT...

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Not as twisted as your version, at least mine wasn't MEAN.
Jan 29, 2004 2:00AM PST

Compassion. Maybe you can help teach those wicked conservatives some.

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You Can Lead A Horse To Water...
Jan 29, 2004 11:14AM PST
Not as twisted as your version, at least mine wasn't MEAN. - James Denison

I don't think making up a story that negatively portrays a party that you disagree with as being nice. My story was more realistic than your's though...

Compassion. Maybe you can help teach those wicked conservatives some. - James Denison

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Since the Conservatives are having more fun trying to destroy and/or silence everyone who disagrees with them, I highly doubt that they would be very interested in any lesson on Compassion...
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Just out of curiosity...
Jan 27, 2004 6:00PM PST

Which candidate has talked about Democratic Socialism?

Do you refer to this party?

Other than that, I don't know of any candidate who is going to implement Democratic Socialism in case of winning the elections.

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Those are communists
Jan 27, 2004 11:57PM PST

There is a difference, but they don't want others to know it. Sneaky as always.

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OK, that's your opinion...
Jan 28, 2004 6:21AM PST

But now let me know which of the democratic candidate that has spoken of democratic Socialism?

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Yeehaaaaa. This Could Be Fun...
Jan 27, 2004 6:17PM PST
Republicans should take full advantage of Democratic socialism. - James Denison

Great! Thanks James. This will work great for the Republican Fascism as well. I bet since the Republican fascists have so much money, they will be willing to spend a lot more of it on anyone who requests their services. Yeehaaaaa. This could be fun... Happy
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NT - Losing confidence in your candidate's electibility??? LOL
Jan 27, 2004 6:25PM PST
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NT - LOL! Who wouldn't?
Jan 27, 2004 8:19PM PST

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LOL!~ It's a good thing I didn't say "BOO!"
Jan 28, 2004 12:01AM PST
Happy

I like Rosie's idea of voting in the Democratic primary , and I would add for Republicans to vote for the obvious party underdogs (Lieberman, Clark, Edwards, hey, even Sharpton!) just to help even out the field a bit.
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Re:Do your part -- dirty tricks as usual!
Jan 27, 2004 9:16PM PST

James, the Republicans' perpetual reliance on "dirty tricks" of various sorts shows how morally bankrupt the Party really is. Morality is about things that are a lot more important than sexual mores, and on those issues (social justice, civic responsibility, and group ethics) the Republicans routinely fail on every one.

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Dave, you're minimizing the heart while emphasizing outward behaviour.
Jan 27, 2004 11:33PM PST

That's the opposite of what Jesus did. He said evil comes from within, from the heart, and is far more serious than outward displays of 'correct behaviour'. In fact, He defined hypocrisy as those who engage in outwardly correct behaviour while inwardly believing something quite different. You don't get much closer to the 'heart' than 'sexual mores'.

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Re: Dave, you're minimizing the heart while emphasizing outward behaviour.
Jan 29, 2004 2:50AM PST

Hi, KP.

I wish I could find the analysis, but I can't. If you read the Gospels (not Paul's Hudeic interpretation of them), you'll find that Christ spent the vast majority of his time preaching about social justice -- around 70%, AIR. Sexual morality was a relatively minor concern -- less than 10%, AIR. The Golden Rule is about loving your neighbor as yourself, not the nature of your relationship with him/her. Look at the Beatitudes -- only one ("pure in spirit") is about what you would probably call "morality," while the others are about issues such as mercy, meekness, peacekeeping, justice, etc. Look at most conservative Protestant Churches, and what's the preaching all about? The evils of sexuality, or liquor, or dancing (Christ drank and danced, you'll recall...) From my reading of the Gospel, Christ would be a lot more upset about the death penalty and lack of consideration for the poor than He would about gay marriage!

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(NT) what does the word Hudeic mean?
Jan 29, 2004 6:12AM PST

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Re: the word Hudeic -- means I hit an 'H,' not a 'J!' (NT)
Jan 29, 2004 12:35PM PST

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Ok, Hudeic was a typo for Judeic, I didn't catch that, thought was something
Jan 30, 2004 2:20AM PST

I didn't know, but then I couldn't find a definition of the word.

When you say "If you read the Gospels (not Paul's Hudeic interpretation of them)", does that mean discounting the King James Version used by many protestians? and the various modern adaptions more or less based on the KJV?

Or does this refer to something Catholic that I'm unaware of?

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We have fun, we don't vote dead people...
Jan 28, 2004 2:17AM PST

that is a "stinkin'" dirty trick common to you Democrits.

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Re:Re:Do your part -- dirty tricks as usual!
Jan 28, 2004 9:15AM PST

"James, the Republicans' perpetual reliance on "dirty tricks" of various sorts..."

You mean like this one?

Federal investigators have now joined the joint state and county probe of voter fraud and corruption in Lake County.

The probe began last year in the wake of the May 7 primary election, in which nine-term Democratic Mayor Robert Pastrick of East Chicago narrowly won, but only on the strength of absentee ballots. His opponent, George Pabey, alleged that hundreds of fraudulent absentee ballots cost him the election.


Full story at http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/113974-2868-009.html

Or how about attempts by Democrats to disenfranchise absentee military voters in Florida and elsewhere in the 2000 Presidential election? Or the shenanigans in Kansas City, where a Democrat-appointed Federal judge ordered polls to stay open past the scheduled end of voting based on allegations of malfeasance which proved to be baseless? I could go on, but you get the idea...

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How about the Florida Supreme Court which repeatedly tried to give the election to Gore,
Jan 29, 2004 2:26AM PST

as they rewrote election laws, ordered recounts in just some areas, ruled on chads, etc.

Thank God for the Federal Supreme Court which, as I recall, voted unanimously to stop the shenanigans.

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SCOTUS Voted 5-4...
Jan 29, 2004 11:38AM PST
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TOP 10 LIES OF ELECTION 2000...
Jan 29, 2004 12:22PM PST
1. The US Supreme Court manual recount ruling was a just decision by impartial judges. Is it justice to say, in essence, "you can recount if you change Florida law and complete the count in an hour and a half? Is it justice to cite "equal protection" as the basis for your ruling but disregard the fact that Florida would have already violated that law by, among other things, using balloting machines in some counties that produced a far greater error rate than in other counties? And what about states that violated the law by using different machines and methods than other states? Can a judge be impartial if his son stands to gain from his decision? Or is it a case of Supreme Injustice?

2. The press conference conducted by Bush's Press Secretary and a GOP Governor detailing the conspiracy going on in the recount rooms. The shameless claims included Bush chads being scotch-taped to keep them attached to the ballot, and chads being eaten as a cover up. THE HORROR! In actuality, an absentee/overseas ballot or two was mailed in with tape on it and dislodged chads (on the floor or anywhere else) could only come from a chad that had already been penetrated which should count as a vote anyway, so I say -- let the overworked canvassing board members "have their chad and eat it too".

3. Al Gore tried to disenfranchise military voters (or as someone asserted, the votes of our men on the USS Cole!). Democratic lawyers did initially ask that overseas ballots adhere to law, but the Gore team later suggested that the ballots be re-evaluated and they never challenged any subsequent additions even though, at the request of Bush lawyers, selective counties recounted military ballots using different standards. Can you say, "Equal protection violation"?

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You keep saying that, Dave...
Jan 28, 2004 9:26AM PST

Dave, you keep refering to dirty tricks. Are we supposed to have forgotten intercepting and recording Newt Gingrich's cell phone calls, obtaining and releasing William Bennett's casino records, and other such things?

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Re:You keep saying that, Dave... and with good reason! (Link)
Jan 28, 2004 12:38PM PST
Infiltration of files seen as extensive; Senate panel's GOP staff pried on Democrats
>>Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring secret strategy memos and periodically passing on copies to the media, Senate officials told The [Boston] Globe.... For Democrats, the scandal highlights GOP dirty tricks that could result in ethics complaints to the Senate and the Washington Bar -- or even criminal charges under computer intrusion laws.<<

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What do you, Dave...
Jan 28, 2004 12:46PM PST

Dave, I just saw that identical post in another thread a few minutes ago. What do you do, chose a story and then start plugging it into multiple threads?