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Do you think your smarter then President Bush?

Jul 22, 2007 6:14PM PDT

Resntly this question was asked on a national television show. Over 70% of the people polled said, yes. So, do you think your smarter then President Bush?

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I liked...
Jul 24, 2007 4:32AM PDT

I liked "We are the enemy in Iraq, we insight those that hate us." in the Pope Benedict XVI thread. It paints the humorous picture of turning people into clones of Kreskin (grin).

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Response
Jul 23, 2007 11:29PM PDT

Electing from a pool of world leaders might not guarantee the experience we'd prefer. either. Happy

Seriously, you are correct that a first-termer has no actual experience as a president of our country. Perhaps that' s why some have look to governors who also sit in a hot seat, and have to make tough decisions.

Otherwise, there isn't much of a yardstick by which to measure the decision-making skills. The selection process seems to be marked by several factors. A certain quality that inspires confidence in them; the skill of their "handlers"; thinking that the candidate will best support our individual agendas; whichever might be the best of a weak slate; the mood of the nation, world conditions.

I know of none who have sat in the Oval Office who have been free of deserved criticism re: their decisions. Sometimes I think we don't appreciate the enormity of the job.

It's possible that those who have seemed to be "smarter" than others through history were more skilled in recognizing qualities in their selection of advisors and cabinet members, rather than depending on their own "smarts".

Angeline
Speakeasy Moderator

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Experience is a two edged blade
Jul 23, 2007 11:44PM PDT

Experience can bring wisdom with it, but it can also take some of the inventiveness away from leadership. Success on the battle field is often attributed to flexibility, yet you often hear a political leader remark how they used the same ideas as governor, senator, mayor, etc. I worry that the one solution fits all approach may neglect appreciating the uniqueness of certain issues.

You are right that we often don't appreciate the difficulties of leadership as much as we should.

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Your points are well made.
Jul 24, 2007 4:20AM PDT

Appears the Gadflies gather.

So which is correct.....overeducated or over-educated or over educated. Tired of discussing the Pope? I will watch my spelling much more closely in the future. You might do the same.

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(NT) Gadflies? Thats very good. ;-)
Jul 24, 2007 4:30AM PDT
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and appropriate
Jul 24, 2007 4:34AM PDT

That's

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(NT) chuckle
Jul 24, 2007 4:36AM PDT
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From Wang Chung
Jul 24, 2007 11:39AM PDT

Everybody was Kung Fu fighting,
Those kicks were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little bit fright'ning,
But they fought with expert timing

Sounds a little bit like this forum, without the fright'ning part. Anyone know who Wang Chung was. Was he a) a spiritual leader, b) TV show character, c) musical group. No fair searching the net. You'll cheat, why did I bother.

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Top 40 radio from the 70's
Jul 24, 2007 11:59AM PDT

But the band Wang Chung was from the 1980's

Everybody have fun tonight.
Everybody Wang Chung tonight

The cat who sang "Kung Fu Fighting" was a different dude.

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I think...
Jul 24, 2007 12:07PM PDT

I think it was Carl Douglas. I've just been hunting for 70's music CDs on sale, and that's why it stuck in my mind.

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I have proof or have I been deceived?
Jul 24, 2007 12:35PM PDT
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Wang Chung may have done a cover of the song...
Jul 24, 2007 12:55PM PDT

,,, but it was Carl Douglas who originated it in the 1970's. Good memory there J! All I could remember was it was some black cat who originally did the song. Came out about the same time the TV show Kung Fu was on TV if I'm not mistaken.


http://www.70disco.com/kungfu.htm

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I checked...
Jul 25, 2007 4:25AM PDT

I checked out the Wang Chung CD link. It said Original Release Date: March 25, 1997. The Carl Douglas song was in 1974.

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From Wang Lung...
Jul 24, 2007 12:00PM PDT

Well... Now, I... I haven't heard you speak so many words since you came to this house. - Wang Lung the farmer.
Just couldn't resist that one (grin)

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amongst others
Jul 24, 2007 8:31PM PDT

fatboy slim
kool and the gang
tom jones
dunno
KC and the sunshine band
N-trance
bus stop

and also rumours of a bootleg bee gees version Happy

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I have been deceived.
Jul 24, 2007 9:12PM PDT

It appears that Carl Douglas did make the song. That Wang Chung did not do a remake. The web site was wrong. There mistake.

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if you dig deep enough
Jul 24, 2007 10:31PM PDT

i think you'll find that he did a 'remix' of the original

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ok
Jul 22, 2007 11:29PM PDT

i know not to stand barefoot in a puddle of water and change a light bulb
i know that it's hard to light a BBQ with wet charcoal
i know not to refuel a car with deisel fuel

y'all get the drift i reckon......


and you have yet to define "smarter than"...


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Of that 70% some are right; most are wrong...
Jul 22, 2007 11:45PM PDT

and it's not really relevant, whatever "smart" means. The President is not elected to be "smart". Otherwise we would elect rocket scientists or mathematicians.

"Smart" is a nice quality to have, but "smart" can be hired. Other qualities such as courage, a moral compass, fairness and managerial skills may be more important. Jimmy Carter was supposedly "smart" but I think most would agree, not a good President.

President Bush was elected to do a job. As it happens, I think he does it well, in spite of naysayers and polls.

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that 70% plus the other 30%
Jul 22, 2007 11:58PM PDT

were "non-smart" enough not to put the phone down (assuming it was a telephone poll of "X" people over the age of etc etc etc )


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"Smart" is often not enough.
Jul 23, 2007 12:36AM PDT

Some of the smartest people are the most oblivious to simple solutions.

Some of the smartest people can commit some of the most serious mistakes.

Some of the smartest people can be the least empathetic.

The myth of the absent minded professor is often times based in truth.

This isn't a comment about Bush... this is a comment about smart people. As for Bush? Time and history will be the judge of how "smart" he really was.

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"smartness" is relative to information available
Jul 24, 2007 2:01AM PDT

I'm 'smart' at certain things and utterly stupid in other areas just because I haven't enough knowledge (perhaps due to no interest personally) in those areas to be 'smarter' about them.

I am dumber than dirt compared to the 'rainman' when it comes to what he is 'smart' about, but I'm 'smarter' than him in other areas just because I have life experience and knowledge in areas he is lacking.

I don't think the question posed here is even realistic to contemplate.

TONI