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Disk Defragmenter for vista

Mar 18, 2008 11:50AM PDT

I have used diskeeper 2008, perfect disk 2008, and auslogics defrag. All of them defragged my laptop to 0%. However, all reports still show I have about 30% of my data in fragmented files. What can I do to correct this? Is there a defragger out there that can lower that number? Thanks.

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Vista built-in utility
Mar 18, 2008 2:49PM PDT

Right Click my computer - manage - disk management - right click to partition - properties - service - defrag...

check that...

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I have been following one defrag co., piriform.com
Mar 18, 2008 7:56PM PDT

If you go t the main site of www.piriform.com one will be interestly recognized, ccleaner2.05.555/
But they have this item that they consider as a beta, that I first saw at majorgeeks - now the newer beta is at filehippo. It's full name is piriform's defraggler. I have a WINXP Home Edition with a 37.27 GB of space that can be used from my 40.01 WD HDD. I didn't results with others but the Beta?? I had 87% free space, ran the first one and how at 88% free. This is where it got interesting, I had deleted some items that amounted to appx. 1% more but now have 90% free space. It does list numbers of fragmented files and lists all the items on a page. Put checkmark in the first and up to defrag C: on the first item - no dirctions but easy to understand. Looks like the old type defrag with the blocks but that is only a small part, that list is impressive! You can actually see if ther items that are no longer needed; I saw system volume informatmation\_restore (System Restore. It claims that it will work for up to Vista 64 bit. Now, seeing beta, I kept thinking that this will improve?? That was over 8 GB reclaimed! the thing I wasn't sure of was the numbers my drive is listed as 37.3 GB then realized that the 10ths were geeting rounded up/down - I learned tht in school. .00 to .04 read as .0; .05-.09 was .1! It was accurate!! But the real kicker is that I can turn off Sytem Restore and use Ad-Aware 2007 on a short run and set one restore point after setting thst to 200MB. Needless to say, I wonder what thr finished defraggler will do? Oh, you may ask what about the Vista built-in utility? My response is what about the WINXP built-in utility?? If it can improve that well... any inelligent person can answer that! Now, I did run up a WIN98SEdefrag that didn't get past 10%, so I went to Safe Mode and got 100% defrag!! I am tempted to see if I can get those 20 squares tighter still, in safe mode. Darrell

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Just checking.
Mar 18, 2008 9:58PM PDT

Over at Diskkeeper they had a white paper on defragmenting that explained some nuances of NTFS such as it leaving a spare cluster inbetween files to slow defragmentation. What we often find are people that spend a lot of time running defrag and test tools but not looking under the hood. Have you looked under the hood to see how these things work and did you ask if one tool erroneously reports what NTFS does on purpose as "fragmented?"

Bob

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Try this
Mar 28, 2008 5:39PM PDT
http://www.download.com/SmartDefrag-Beta/3000-2094_4-10759533.html?tag=lst-1

This works well for me.

Also there are some files that commercial defragger's even the Vista defragmenter will not defrag. These are critical files used by the OS. A defragger is available for these from this site.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx

Create a restore point before proceeding! This is advanced software! Use at your own risk! Read the instructions carefully before proceeding! I have not used this software. If you have problems contact sysinternals directly! Note: that this software is not "listed" for use with Vista Operating Systems!

Have I "exclaimed" that enough? Grin

Rather then use this software I would live with it as it is. The risk is of course, yours.
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Defraggler is a friend's Vista and my WINXP one item...
Mar 30, 2008 12:38AM PDT

A person with Vista said: "Volume System Information wasn't defragged mine has an extra part, \_restore. Both are System Restore Files. I only used it on his main drive and not the recovery section. It was suggested you turn off System Restore and back on again and it was something I had already did dropping the amount of restore points to 200MB. Ran Ad-Aware 2007 until I hit hosts, turned that off set Restore Point!! Darrell