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Digital 8mm transfer to PC?

Dec 25, 2004 5:45AM PST

Samsung 8mm digital video camera model #SCL901 does not have a USB or firewire port to transfer to my PC. We have got new editing software for Christmas and cannot tranfer the data to the PC. What is the next step? Is there a separate player/transfer device we can put the tapes in to tranfer? Or are we going to have to get a new video camera? If so what can you reccomend? Thanks ahead of time!

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Analog capture.
Dec 25, 2004 5:58AM PST
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o.k. thnx
Dec 25, 2004 9:00AM PST

is there a link for analog to digital?

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It's been discussed a few dozen times in the forums.
Dec 25, 2004 11:00AM PST

But a quick repaeat is...

1. Capture the video with some Capture/TV card.
I use the 49 buck Hauppauge card.

2. Edit it with the software that comes with a DVD recorder.
I use Ulead DVD Moviefactory that came with a 79 dollar DVD recorder.

Bob

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How to transfer 8mm film to DV
Jan 30, 2005 3:54AM PST

Here is a tutorial I copied from http://www.dvdhomevideoeditor.com home page
I did it and it worked. I even contacted them twice and they replied.
goes as follows:

HAVE A WORKING PROJECTOR, AND A HIGH QUALITY DV CAMERA, AND 2 COMPLETE DAYS?

Step by Step. Read this article carefully. Our demo on the home page was produced using this method, and it is very affordable, and quick.

Basically - Film it using a camera greater than $1,000 in price and a small piece of heavy matt photo paper, not glossy. Best is smooth cloth, but it must be very fine fiber and very smooth. Image max size 10 inches wide. Best is 5-6 inches. Do not film it using a projector screen.

Build a black cardboard box, project into it with the inside sides painted FLAT black. Must be 1 foot wide, 1 foot or so high and about 2 1/2 feet long. Do not skip the flat black paint - I learned this via trial and error. It reduces light distortion in the camera. Paint the edges of your photo paper FLAT BLACK leaving a white square 6X8 inches. This reduces white glare. Attach the paper screen at the end of your box. Connect to the bottom of the photo paper screen a long piece of cardboard , like a handle so you can gently pull the bottom towards you a bit to angle it, or push it back slightly. Aim your project STRAIGHT on - if it is tilted even a bit, the edges will be slightly out of focus. Aim the Digital camera as close to the projector line of sight as possible. Do not use ANALOGUE camera. A DV camera will allow you to set the shutter speed. You need to use 60FPS for film that plays at 20FPS. (You can film 18FPS film at 20FPS to get a good DV capture and slow it down in your DV Video editor. Filming at 18FPS will produce a lousy capture) Set up your capture program and view the camera on screen. Now set your camera on AUTO FOCUS. Attach a piece of printed paper to a long stick. Shine some light into your long box 1 ft wide, 1 foot high and 2 1/2 feet long with the photo paper taped onto the other end facing the camera and projector. Push the stick up against the screen with the camera on, let it focus. Now turn off the focus. Put it on MANUAL while it is still focusing on it. Take out the piece of paper with print on it you used to focus the camera. Cycle power on the camera leaving it on MANUAL focus. Now run your film thru. At first, slightly move the bottom of the screen forward or backward until the little white spot from the bulb is off the preview on your monitor. Constantly adj the speed of the projector to minimize the white flutter. OR - take off the back cover of the projector and spray slick 50 air grease onto the gears. That will help it run smooth. LEAVE it on MANUAL FOCUS. When done and in PC, run a professional AUTO LEVEL filter through it immediately. This will get rid of some of the white flutter. Do not use COLOR CONTROL or any other filters at the same time. The detail is lacking to run multiple filters even if you use a $3,000 camera. Run a COLOR CONTROL filter thru your clip after you run the auto level first. That is as good as you will get using telecine and a cheap regular projector.


Practice filming a small 50 foot reel a few hours. The only way to minimize the white phasing flutter is to adj the speed of the projector manually during capture. GOOD LUCK!

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8mm film conversion to DV
Feb 7, 2005 10:00PM PST

I purchased a commerically produced equivalent several years ago but was never happy with the results, so recently sent about 700' of 30 year old film to a "professional" (several of whom can be found on the web). The DVD and MPEG returned were better than the results I obtained (clearer impages, no flutter)...not perfect because the recording camera's automatic compensation for brightness/contrast and color correction lags the projected image by a few frames -- those should be removed before the show is ready for prime time. I purchased Studio 9 for editting and assembly and have probably devoted 30-40 hours editting and reassembling the raw MPEG into clean short movies that would be meaningful to individual family members. Once each segment is finished, I FTP it to the media directory of my website and e-mail friends and family. I've done something similar with old audio tapes of family members who have long since passed away. Have fun! P.S. If your want my old VID II Transfer System, let me know.

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Buy a good capture card
Jan 30, 2005 4:05AM PST

DO NOT BUY PINNACLE unless it is pro. Their consumer stuff is extreme cheap. Buy canpous video capture card, external USB2.0. You can plug the analogue in yoru camera into it. You can use your camera to capture 8mm film home movies too.
see this awesome tutorial -
http://www.dvdhomevideoeditor.com/PROD-8MM_FILM_HOWTO_TRANSFER.htm

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Digital 8mm transfer to PC?
Jan 31, 2005 12:24AM PST
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Digital 8mm transfer to PC
Feb 3, 2005 8:21PM PST

Hi;
I had similar problem with copying VCR tapes. My solution was to purchase a Video Capture (PCI) card, but there are standalone devices out on the market too. If you have a way to watch your movies via TV, you can install the Video Cap device between your comp and your camera to download. I am using AverDV PCI board, but there are AVD Video Capture Devices out, check the internet. Right now Tigerdirect has one for ~$60.00 (AVD Xpress). Good luck.

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I use a Sony Video Walkman GV-D800
Feb 3, 2005 9:21PM PST

I use a Sony Video Walkman GV-D800 to transfer 8mm, Hi-8, and Digital 8 tapes via firewire for my clients. This model has a build in screen and speaker, but there is another model without these features for less money. It does a good job of digitizing the video.

Best regards,
John

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Digital 8mm - How to transfer to PC
Feb 3, 2005 10:29PM PST

What video editing software do you have?
You can transfer video from your camera if it has Analog outputs called RCA or Composite.
Connect this cable to a hardware capture device or internal video capture card in your PC and capture in this fashion. The capture card / hardware device acts as an interface between the camera / VCR and your PC.

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Forget the PC
Feb 4, 2005 12:43AM PST

I have a similar camera, I use a DVDR04 from WalMart it has a digital plug for camera's with firewire but it has a super vhs plug on it which works almost a good for recording. Plus composit mode and it only costs 138.00 dollars. I know you can't edit like a pc could, I use Pinnacle, Ulead, and Nero. But you can put the CD back in your PC later to edit since the DVD recording is not protected.

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software must be able to edit MPEG2
Feb 4, 2005 12:48AM PST

That's another good alternative. You must have software that supports editing MPEG2 encoded files though, or the ability to convert MPEG2 back to another editable format such as AVI.

John

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8 mm Transfer
Feb 4, 2005 6:26AM PST

I had a similar problem but found a D-Link Video converter (DUB-AV200) which I now use for either VHS transfers to my PC or from my 8mm analog video camera. It requires an USB 2 port and has a RCA Vision and L/R audio input. Editing and conversion software is included.
Derek

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Transfer
Feb 4, 2005 7:49AM PST

I have fun here. I have the 906 model. Same problem, no digital output. My solution and what I do from there...
I have an ATI All-In-Wonder 7500 AGP card. It came with recording software that allows me to record from TV or the input adapter. The adapter allows you to plug in stereo/mono audio to RCA inputs and video from either S-Video or RCA inputs. The 906 model had a S-video output. The newer All-in-Wonder models have the same bells and whistles.
If you like what you have recorded, take it stright into your DVD burning software and record it. If you want to edit it....
I used Serif's Movie Plus software to edit my video and create a background MPeG file for my DVD using a minute's worth of video/audio from my camera's video.
Using the Movie Plus software you can separate the original soundtrack from the video and use any soundtrack you wish for the audio. You can also add upto 2 soundtracks to the original soundtrack. This works good for the background video for your DVD's menu as well as the video itself.
From here, I use Sonic's MyDVD to put the background video into my menu and place my videos in the sequence I want to watch them in. Then press BURN.

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Camcorders
Feb 4, 2005 11:42AM PST

Your Camcorder must have some kind of OUTPUT connections. If it doesnt, then there is no way you could input any video pictures to your pc.

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Transfering movies to pc's
Feb 5, 2005 12:24PM PST

If you can make either a DVD or Video Tape of your photos/movies, then you can use a video capture system to transfer them to your pc. I use WinTV-PVR USB2 [there are other brands available] to transfer old video tapes to mpg files for my PC.

If you can't transfer to a DVD or Video Tape, then you could use a an upgraded video camera to copy the projected movies. Hope this helps.