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Did anybody catch Biography 8/22 on JFK and Obama?

by Evie / August 23, 2006 12:38 PM PDT

I saw the ad for it and it was bizarre. Does anyone really draw any sort of analogy between these two? Obama is a phenom largely constructed by media attention and the fact that he is portrayed as black (though biracial and raised by his white mother in white communities). He hardly seems to have any inspiring message or influence on the party, let alone politics in this country.


Is this the media's way of prepping him for veep in '08?

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Didn't see it, but there is a steady drumbeat to build him
by Kiddpeat / August 23, 2006 12:49 PM PDT

up. I think the Democrat establishment and the left have high hopes for him. I've not heard anyone comparing him to JFK, but I guess they see the JFK myth as something to hitch his wagon to.

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I had a good laugh when I saw the ad for it
by null. / August 23, 2006 4:17 PM PDT

My wife and son we're confused about what was so funny.

Don Erickson

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I do feel sorry for poor Harold Ford ...
by Evie / August 23, 2006 10:38 PM PDT

... they really tossed him aside when Barack Obama came on the scene! Obama is testament to the power of media hype, I'll give him that. Sad

Evie Happy

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Did you see it?
by grimgraphix / August 23, 2006 10:28 PM PDT

The Biography channel is doing a series comparing contemporary figure to the recent figures of the past. Tonight's show is looking at the similarities of Hugh Hefner & Russell Simmons... They have also compared Mary Tyler Moore & George Lopez.

It's a new approach to a series of shows thats been running for a long time. Here is the link to the episode you mention...

John F. Kennedy & Barack Obama
First, how did one man inspire a nation and motivate Americans to work harder and give something back to their government? John F. Kennedy will long be remembered for challenging the American people--to put a man on the moon, put aside racial prejudices, join a volunteer corps to help undeveloped countries. Includes interviews with political satirist Mort Sahl and Cliff Robertson, who played JFK on film.

Then, when he called himself ''a skinny kid with a funny name'' at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, his political star was already on the rise. By the time he decimated the competition in 2004 race for the Illinois Senate, he was the bona fide golden child of a Democratic party desperately in need of a winner.

Up and coming Democrats, one black, one catholic... there is enough grounds to make parallel comparisons. At least for an entertainment show.

"Is this the media's way of prepping him for veep in '08?"... Your reaching here.


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No I didn't see it
by Evie / August 23, 2006 10:34 PM PDT
In reply to: Did you see it?

I don't think I could stomach another sugar coated campaign commercial for the woefully inadequate Barack Obama.

Enough grounds for a parallel? Get real. THAT is reaching. You haven't heard the buzz about putting him on the ballot in '08? Heck grim, some are touting him for Prez in '08.

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Alas... the dems are reaching as well!
by grimgraphix / August 24, 2006 3:59 AM PDT
In reply to: No I didn't see it

I am so tired of the democratic party acting like it's a popularity contest... they forget it's about what is good for the country. Obama made a decent speaker at the last dem convention but he needs more time in office and more experience before I could think of voting for him.


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That about sums it up ...
by Evie / August 24, 2006 4:24 AM PDT

... sung by Teddy Kennedy perhaps?

The reason I started my other thread was because I went back to look at that DNC speech to see if there was anything that actually came of it -- e.g. has he had any influence? The answer is a resounding *no*. He has been utterly unremarkable in interviews on MTP (in a show where he was followed by a "balanced" panel of Begala and Carville v. Matilin) and the like. In some ways there's a subtle racist tinge to many of the glowing pieces written about him -- as if there is special about his articulation as if that is somehow unexpected from a black man, yet an overabundance of attention paid to a distorted representation of his race and background.

Evie Happy

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(NT) (NT) Geez, why was EdH's post pulled?
by Evie / August 24, 2006 4:28 AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Wow! Somebody doesn't like classic rock n roll?
by EdH / August 24, 2006 5:49 AM PDT
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