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Desktop Computer & Parts Lifespan

Feb 28, 2010 5:04AM PST

What is the typical lifespan of a Desktop and the PC parts? Also, can a computer be too old to upgrade? Thanks in advance!

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Five year designs.
Feb 28, 2010 6:03AM PST

If you look at part after part you find 5 year designs. Yes, many machines can last longer but your average consumer gear is now five year designs.

As to the old computer upgrade it's all in the numbers. A great example are those machines with RDRAM. The cost of 4GB of RDRAM would buy you a shiny new Intel i7 monster machine. So does that change the answer?
Bob

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I don't think it's design life . . .
Feb 28, 2010 10:18PM PST

I think it's consumer life. After five years or so, improvements in systems entice consumers to move away from the old machine to the new one. I have several PCs, desktops and laptops, that are over five years old and still purring along nicely. In the last 10-15 years, having bought complete systems and built my own, I've had one hard drive fail.

On the other hand, I'm not always tweaking and jacking around like some people do.

IMHO

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HDD Failure
Mar 2, 2010 7:30AM PST

What are the signs of Hard Drive Failure?

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Errors . . .
Mar 2, 2010 12:43PM PST

usually. It's hard to say. Sometimes the SMART (Google it) will report a pending failure.

Once a month I clone my hard drive to an internal drive in an external USB case. If I have a catastrophic failure I will just swap the drive. This drive is a standard internal drive that I keep in an anti-static bag in an old DVD movie case.

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In addition
Mar 5, 2010 11:47AM PST

A monthly backup is a good idea. I would add that it's a good idea to store the BU off-site. At your brother's, or in a safe-deposit box at the bank.

Having a safe is also a good idea, for important papers, your BU, your will, passport, etc.

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Cloning hard drive to external storage unit
Mar 5, 2010 8:01PM PST

What software can I use to clone my entire hard drive to an external storage box using USB cable?

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No need to hash around...
Feb 28, 2010 11:33PM PST

The typical h/w and s/w support is 5yrs.. Because that also where the maker wants to walk away. In the interim the h/w and s/w simply progress where that makes it true. So, don't count on too much support after that but there usually is in some fashion.

Upgrades aren't going to matter if it costs too much. Further, it gets to a point where finding parts can be an issue. So, in the PC world its sometimes makes practical sense to start anew. A decent basic new system today is leaps and bounds better than a top-end system of 5yrs. ago.

tada -----Willy Happy

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So...
Mar 5, 2010 7:41AM PST

If I keep the dust out of the PC, it will generally last a long time?

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I have a PC bought in 2001, running fine
Mar 5, 2010 10:19AM PST

I have a PC I bought in 2001. It has an Intel motherboard, Pentium 5, 1.5 GB memory, running Windows XP. I had one HD failure, but except for that - no problems. I added a 500 GB WD Blue Caviar SATA disk, using a Promise PCI controller.
In fact, performance is still fine. I am using it mainly for surfing, but sometimes I open about 10 Firefox/IE 7 windows simultaneously, plus UTorrent running in the background, plus operating a scanner, no problems.
Running movies/ WMP: no problems (NVidia GEForce 5200 video card - a modest card running fine).
I did have another computer (mobo was Asus or Award) that did fail.

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Lifetime of a desktop computer...
Mar 5, 2010 12:00PM PST

It varies *smile*. If you're talking about the component level, component failures are random, but a lot of components never fail. On the other hand some do. It's helpful if the component that fails is a separate piece, like a memory DIMM, or a disk drive, or a fan, etc. Something that can easily be diagnosed and repaired. I've never had to retire a computer because of a component failure, though.

I've had several desktops systems, and none of them stopped working at the point that I stopped using them (see above). I had just upgraded them as far as it made sense, and wanting to run software written for newer hardware made it just too painful to use them any more. For example, you can only put as much memory in a computer as the memory DIMM slots allow. I'm thinking of retiring one that I have now that's about 5.5 years old simply because I'd really like to use USB3.0 for backups and can't find a USB3.0 adapter card that isn't PCI Express, and wouldn't you know it, the computer only takes PCI cards (no PCI Express slots). The computer itself is only expandable to 2GB of memory, and that's maxed out. It still works okay, but I'd sure like that USB3.0 *smile*.

That's just an example of what a difficult question lifetime is to answer. It also depends on what kind of a buyer you are. I tend to not buy bottom of the line, they become unsatisfying too quickly *smile*. On the other hand, I don't get the top of the line, either, that doesn't make any sense to me. I find a "sweet spot" where I think that there's enough oomph there, and the price is reasonable. Like last time I got a quad-processor Q9450 (1.33 GHz. FSB) and 3 GB. of memory, with Vista Home Premium, cost about $1000. That was about 1.5 years ago, and it ran Vista like the wind. Now, I've installed 64-bit Windows 7 and 6GB of memory, and it runs Windows 7 like the wind. I expect to be using the computer at least another 3 years or more, and then will find my next sweet spot and get another system. Or maybe my next computer will be a smart phone *smile*. 3 years is a long way downstream this days. The desktop that I had before that one was comparable, and I still am using it and it's fine (doesn't have USB3.0 though, see above).

To bring this to a close, I think that the 5 year lifetime is possible if you choose wisely, but after 2 or 3 years you'll be doing upgrades, and not too long after that it will become your second computer since the software that's available will expect you to be upping the ante on the computing end. So if you want to run newer software, you'll be doing it with your new desktop, and the old desktop will continue to do what it does best, run the software that it was designed to run, the older stuff.

Since all of the above is pretty subjective, you'll have to see how it works out for you. One thing, though, is that desktop computers do tend to have a longer life and be more upgradable than laptop computers due to heat and add-on card capacity issues.

-Roger

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It all depends...
Mar 5, 2010 9:52PM PST

...on what you want to use it for. If you are using it as a regular day to day workhorse, likely the "latest and greatest" versions of your applications will render it obsolete before the components wear out.

If it's relegated to a service use (I have a 10 year old tower happily running as a print server in its original state) then run it till it croaks.

Can they be to old to upgrade? Unless you count stripping it down to the bare case and replacing everything, Mobo, Power Supply and the rest, then yes, they do get too old, probably after 4 years, it's more cost effective to buy a new model (in UK, usually cheaper than the components unless you are building a specialized machine). Newer machines are also a lot more power/performance efficient, aside from improved functionality.