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Dem theft of raisins ... FDR

Apr 22, 2015 8:14AM PDT

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Another hangover from
Apr 22, 2015 8:53AM PDT

the Socialist Policies of FDR, the biggest thief this nation ever saw, until Obama.

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(NT) What's wrong with socialism?
Apr 24, 2015 12:59AM PDT
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it is not philanthropy
Apr 25, 2015 3:51AM PDT

It takes from the productive by force to give to the indolent by nature, and used in such manner to enslave their support of those in power and the entire system eventually is aimed any anyone who is productive other than those who managed to in power to use the power of Socialism against those who are better than they are.

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Wrong.
Apr 25, 2015 4:24AM PDT

It's taking the tax revenue and pooling it for the benefit of all.

The police and fire departments are socialism. Schools through high school is socialism. Paving and fixing and plowing the roads is socialism. Repairing the infrastructure is socialism. Helping the poor (most of which work full time or more) is socialism (also Biblical). What is not socialism? Making sure many very profitable corporations not only pay no taxes but get corporate welfare. Keep reducing the tax rates of the billionaires and millionaires even though they make 90% of the income or more. These are not job creators. The job creators are the people that spend all they have in their communities.

This is what happens when you raise the minimum wage to $15.00 an hour Keeping the minimum wage at $7.25 is what is killing the economy.

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Not factual actually
Apr 25, 2015 5:17AM PDT

"The job creators are the people that spend all they have in their communities."

And WHO creates the BUSINESSES that hire people who then spend their paychecks in those communities, Diana? The businesses don't just appear like magic.....OTHER people risk their own money, including mortgaging their homes as collateral and/or taking out large business loans, in order to start that business........all in the hopes that what they have to offer or sell will be in demand long enough to catch on and grow larger, but most new businesses fail in the first six months, putting those employed out of work again. BUT the risk is still taken....and it isn't the government that starts them, nor is it the government that keeps them open.

The ONLY job creators in THIS administration IS the Federal Government with its ever expanding mentality, using the taxes from those still lucky enough to have jobs in both the private and the public sectors to pay those new employees.

A bit of irony....the IRS leader testified in Congress last week about how the CUSTOMER SERVICE division couldn't help 60% of the taxpayers who called in looking for help and advice to do their taxes.....and his 'defense' of that 'punishment' behavior was that there wasn't enough money in the IRS coffers to pay employees to pick up the phones because they had been diverted to working on Obamacare. This is completely insulting to those who actually keep track of this crap because the IRS HIRED 16,000 NEW employees specifically to deal with Obamacare.........so where did all the OTHER ORIGINAL IRS employees go to who were ALREADY on the job who USED to take those calls? I call this a 'punishment' move because that's exactly what BO did during the beginning of sequestration....he shut down services to the public, such as tours of the WH, with the attitude of 'make it as hurtful as possible'. The question nobody has ever asked since that happened is: If sequestration continued for the next few years on schedule, where did the WH get the funds to allow the tours and open the public/free memorials again that he had barred/fenced off?

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The IRS doesn't keep all the people on the phone all year
Apr 25, 2015 6:01AM PDT

around just like TurboTax or Tax Act. They hire a bunch of people for tax season. If the funds were not available to hire the temps, the year-around employees were the only ones able to man the phones.

As for the people that own the businesses that hire the associates, most are local and small businesses. They own the business or the franchises. Quite honestly, most megastores that are company owned (like Wal-Mart) destroy business. People go there because it's cheaper and they can't afford anything else and the small businesses close down.

When the minimum wage goes up, the people start going to the local stores because the quality is normally better and the employees are friendlier and more helpful.

Raising the minimum wage gives people more money in their pockets and they spend it locally. They can also can more upscale in dining and buying things. They will still probably go to Wal-Mart for school supplies.

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Your view is unrealistic
Apr 25, 2015 6:26AM PDT

Don't you think WalMart hires local people, Diana?

If the government didn't regulate the small business owner so heavily that they can't even afford to pay the accountants and attorneys to keep up with the crap, even WalMart wouldn't put them out of business. You'd be surprised at how many of them aren't even allowed to purchase goods overseas like the mega stores can.

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RE: You'd be surprised
Apr 25, 2015 6:35AM PDT
You'd be surprised at how many of them aren't even allowed to purchase goods overseas

surprise me with some figures/names/examples
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(NT) Then how do you explain Seatac, Washington?
Apr 25, 2015 6:35AM PDT
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Of course, Wal-Mart would rather close stores
Apr 25, 2015 6:36AM PDT

than let a union in or raise salaries.

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An awful lot of those small shops
Apr 25, 2015 6:57AM PDT

and stores went out of business BECAUSE of unions, Diana,............do you deny that? Union costs forced wages and benefits and thus prices to be so high that even long time businesses went under. You can't blame everything on Walmart, although you'll continue to try.

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A lot of those small shops wouldn't interest unions
Apr 25, 2015 7:51AM PDT

Wal-Mart drove them out of business.

I do believe that unions would be pleased with $15.00 an hour for retail. That is what is going on in Seatac.

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Small shops have become
Apr 25, 2015 8:08PM PDT

much more important to Unions over the last thirty years, Diana because they count the total numbers as members as a plus as they've declined so heavily and are getting worse now with more and more states becoming 'right to work' states. Stop being delusional when it comes to Unions and their greed......

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and then....
Apr 25, 2015 7:35AM PDT

we can give it all back to them, to spend it all over again. right? That's Socialism at it's best!!!

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(NT) Give what back?
Apr 25, 2015 7:52AM PDT
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Not really. It's a social-economic concept
Apr 25, 2015 5:28AM PDT

It does require that all "be on the same page". I'd think it would work just fine if all persons under it understood and accepted that they could not have their own aspirations or desire for personal betterment. They would need to understand and accept that it might be necessary to work a bit more but expect to gain nothing from it for themselves. At the same time, they'd need to understand and accept that the reason was to try and ensure their own security and the security of all. If you can convince people that personal success isn't what they imagine it to be, you may have something. I could think that forms of socialism could work on a very small scale as long as all bought into it but with a world of diverse thinking, dreams, hopes, and abilities, you'd have a fight if you tried to force it on the general population.

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(NT) Socialism is working very well in a lot of the world
Apr 25, 2015 6:04AM PDT
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where we send all that foreign aid.
Apr 25, 2015 7:36AM PDT

Yes, it works great on the money we send them?

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Countrys of the size an population diversity of the US?
Apr 25, 2015 8:03AM PDT

I'd ask you to name one and show where everyone was happy. Remember that, for socialism to work, everyone needs to be seen as contributing to the best of their ability. How do you plan to make that happen?

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Why not give it a try
Apr 25, 2015 12:32PM PDT

Capitalism (Oligarchy) isn't working.

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Sorry but "give it a try" is not a plan.
Apr 25, 2015 7:15PM PDT

In the US, we have over 300 million people. We're losing ground even getting a married couple to find and stay on the same path. You won't be giving anything a try as long as people have the right to vote otherwise. Dictator maybe?

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There ARE Socialist regimes
Apr 25, 2015 11:28PM PDT

where you might feel more at home than America.

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RE: you'd have a fight
Apr 25, 2015 6:10AM PDT
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that's because
Apr 25, 2015 7:39AM PDT

it's mostly white and so cold they don't have a lot of losers marching up and down the streets changing "no justice, no peace". It's also because they don't have that many large population centers, so they are interviewing people living in the boonies unbothered by the other loonies.

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(NT) So, when are you moving up here?
Apr 25, 2015 9:07PM PDT
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I don't think
Apr 25, 2015 9:46PM PDT

a socialist country can sustain a massive immigration surge which is why places like Italy right now are hurting badly trying to take care of so many 'refugees' fleeing Africa and other areas being seized by terrorists..........and why so many countries have such strict immigration laws compared to ours. How strict are those laws in Canada, JP? The USA used to be able to handle immigration reasonably until this administration blew it completely apart....and for BO to 'dumb down' our laws during a huge recession/depression period was and is totally insane, but his agenda doesn't care about anything other than his legacy, and he'll be long gone before the crash hits and it's up to other leaders to deal with the results.

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If I move any direction
Apr 25, 2015 11:28PM PDT

It's further south, out of the cold zone.

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into the frying pan........ where it's "warm" with
Apr 26, 2015 12:48AM PDT

a lot of losers marching up and down the streets changing "no justice, no peace". It's also because they don't have that many large population centers,

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Heck, they're doing that....
Apr 26, 2015 4:46AM PDT

...up the road in Baltimore right now. We could use an all day gully washer of a rain storm to clear the streets off.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/

Some black drug dealer got his neck broke by police, sort of a modern day lynching, just without the rope, but same result, broken neck, dead person. I believe the first 3 arresting officers were white, there were 3 other police involved after the initial contact. They do need to get the "hoo-rah" attitude out of the police forces in this country, remember "protect and serve".

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/baltimore-freddie-gray-protests-death-investigation-live-blog/

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What makes you think he was a drug dealer?
Apr 26, 2015 6:59AM PDT

if he's black, he's automatically a drug dealer?

The only thing I've seen is that he was stopped while riding his bike and he objected to being stopped for no reason. They did say that they found a switchblade on him. I don't think that is a capital offense. I used to have a switchblade.

The police dragged him to the van. He said he was hurt and needed medical attention and he was ignored. They put him on the seat in the van with no seatbelt. They then took him around town and he fell off of the seat a couple of times. One time they put leg shackles on him.

I can't find the link but it was about a half hour before they called the paramedics.

If he was a drug dealer, he must have been a very smart one because they never convicted him no matter how many times they arrested him, he wasn't convicted of anything after the once when he was 18.

So are you saying that because you believe he was a drug dealer, he deserved to die?

As to the riots, I was listening to someone from there this morning and she was saying that the protest was quiet until some outsiders got involved.