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dell6000 vs hp zv6000 vs compaq r4000

by hojo11779 / May 3, 2005 12:53 AM PDT

Can anybody compare the dell 6000, hp zv6000 and the compaq r4000?Which is the better laptop?Thanks HOJO

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Yes, anybody can
by Ryan T / May 3, 2005 11:34 PM PDT

Just look at their specs. Or better yet, wait until they're all reviewed at CNet and compare the pros and cons of each.

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re
by nino88 / May 4, 2005 9:06 PM PDT

I'll get my R4000 on May 25th (AMD 4000+, 1GB RAM, 128 MB ATI Radeon, 12 cell batt.). With the same spec, ZV 6000 costs about $400 more. So far, I have better experience with Compaq notebooks. I buy 1 notebook each year and went thru several brands including Alienware in the beginning of this year and I still prefer Compaq. Not sure why it's cheaper than other brands though.

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Why the R4000 is cheaper...
by jsh1120 / May 6, 2005 9:43 AM PDT
In reply to: re

Nino88: I also purchased the R4000 with the exact specs as yours (minus the 12 cell battery). Before I bought it, I contacted HP and asked why the R4000 was cheaper than the ZV6000. HP said it may have been a mistake in their pricing and it was to my advantage. They also said that there was really no difference between the two.

Alex

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No idea
by nino88 / May 6, 2005 1:24 PM PDT

It's not a mistake. For the almost exact the same thing, HP always charges higher price. I've been their customer for a long time and yet to figure this one out. It really doesn't make sense since they both sharing many same components.

Anyway, I think Compaq is raising the price on the R4000. Last week, for the same specs, I could get it for a little over $1300. And a few days ago when I ordered it, they charge almost $100 more ($1417).

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Why Compaq is Cheaper.
by srikanth_janga / May 9, 2005 6:55 AM PDT
In reply to: No idea

You are right, i had to replace my order due to payment authorization failure. When I asked them why the compaq was cheaper, if it was due to poorer quality etc. the reply was that the HP counterpart is the EXACT SAME build except that HP Charges it more for brand sake. Compaq and HP are still separate organizations in the same company as far as manufacturing and order management goes.

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Why compaq is cheaper
by mike1282 / May 17, 2005 12:33 PM PDT
In reply to: Why Compaq is Cheaper.

Thinking about it in terms of economics, my guess would be that they look at hp as the "flagship" brand and compaq as the "budget" brand. The idea is probably along the same lines as buying generic goods that are manufactured by the same company under a different name. This is generally done to gain a broader consumer base.... but that's just my theory...

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(NT) (NT) Doesnt HP own Compaq? Guess they can still compete.
by Dragon / May 25, 2005 7:21 AM PDT
In reply to: Why compaq is cheaper
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HP Pricing
by Ryan T / May 27, 2005 1:13 PM PDT

I ordered a Compaq V2000 last week and found out why HP get's more for their laptops. HP adds more features. I expected the V2000 to have the same play-dvd-while-off feature as the DV1000, but it didn't. It also didn't have the dual-headphone jack, nor the remote control. Those extras, and somewhat nicer styling, are what you pay for.

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au contraire
by gadget girl / August 3, 2005 11:32 PM PDT
In reply to: Why compaq is cheaper

from what I've been told, COMPAQ is the business line & HP the home/small office line.
COMPAQ sometimes come with XP Pro while HP doesn't.

What's the reliability: HP versus Compaq?

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Not Really
by Merranvo / August 5, 2005 11:00 AM PDT
In reply to: au contraire

look at their site... they offer "buisness machiens" for both HP and COMPAQ

compaq was known as a buisness machien before the merge. That is what you are getting mixed up.

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Compaq R4000 here too
by srikanth_janga / May 9, 2005 6:51 AM PDT
In reply to: re

Hey, i ordered an R4000 with the same config plus a bluetooth, do you have any idea what DDR rating they use. (DDR 333/400 etc). mine is expected to ship on May 24th. Can't wait. My first laptop ever. hope its a good experience.

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Wow. it comes early
by nino88 / May 9, 2005 9:18 PM PDT
In reply to: Compaq R4000 here too

I couldn't believe it. They told me it's gonna be ready to ship by 5/25 but just got an email that my order has been shipped today 5/10.

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same here
by srikanth_janga / May 17, 2005 5:01 AM PDT
In reply to: Wow. it comes early

man these guys are quick, iam playin with my new toy and it rocks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Battery Life
by markcrook / May 17, 2005 11:32 PM PDT
In reply to: same here

Hi,

Looking to buy an R4025ea over here in the UK. What sort of battery life are you getting? Some guides are quoting up to 3 hours.

Regards

Mark

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Battery life custom R4000
by dane_62 / May 22, 2005 5:12 AM PDT
In reply to: Battery Life

I'm not sure of the specs on your r4000 and that could have some effect on the battery life. I have an r4000 with the athlon 64 4000+ 2 gig ram, 5400 rpm hard drive and 128 mb radeon express 200mm. I have two 12 cell batteries. It really seems to depend on what I'm doning. But if it's something pretty simple like playing MP3s off the hard drive, or even watching a DVD and you have the screen dimmed I seem to get up to 2 hours and 45 minutes of life. If I'm playing a game like Rome:Total War then the battery seems to go a log quiker like an hour and 45 minutes.

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Battery Life, +
by Merranvo / May 24, 2005 3:42 AM PDT

If you would want to maximize the battery life, you would want to get lower values. Say

AMD Sempron(TM) 3200+ and 4200 RPM Hard Drive

Also, turning off wireless connections helps.

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Fan Noise
by xmlstroup / May 31, 2005 7:11 AM PDT

I'm considering buying the r4000 with 2gig RAM,4000+ processor and 80gig 5400RPM drive. I have an HP ze5620 and it has an anoying loud fan. I've heard similar complaints with the z6000. Does the r4000 suffer from the same loud fan noise?

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Compaq R4000 fan noise
by katman / June 10, 2005 10:14 AM PDT
In reply to: Fan Noise

Athlon 64 3200+(2ghz), 1M ram, 60gig 5400 disc. I also have a R3000. The R4000 has two fans, one is always on, and very noisy compared to the R3000.. Very disappointing!!

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Similar Issue
by kitlancaster / June 15, 2005 12:10 PM PDT
In reply to: Compaq R4000 fan noise

I just got my R4000 on monday with maxed out specs. I have to say it is very very quite however, a fan is not placed right on the mainboard. It causes a slight vibration in the keyboard. I called Compaq and they said that wasn't so-post to happen. I am returning my unit for the HPZD6000. HP has consistently been rated higher in professonal reviews despite the company merger and similar specs.

Vibration Aside: this thing is freaking SWEET, with 2 gigs of ran you can multi task anything. I installed a game, download updates from the internet, chatted online with my webcam, browsed the internet and listened to toons on Windows Media Player.

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If you are willing to void your warranty
by damasta55r / June 15, 2005 1:42 PM PDT
In reply to: Similar Issue

Download speedfan.

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zv6000 fan noise
by nrenow / June 21, 2005 10:05 AM PDT
In reply to: Fan Noise

There is a bit. If you shut down all ambient noise and stand across the room, you will hear it. It annoyed me at first, but honestly, it's not an issue.

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R4000 loud fan
by katman / June 30, 2005 10:54 AM PDT
In reply to: Fan Noise

I got the R4000 with both Athlon 64 and Sempron, and they both have the annoying loud fan. My R3000 is very quiet. Can anything be done to make the fan run quieter?

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RE:
by damasta55r / June 30, 2005 1:02 PM PDT
In reply to: R4000 loud fan

You might be able to use speedfan to control your fan. Recommended only if you know what you're doing. Not sure if mobo in notebooks supports it or not thought.

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???
by Merranvo / July 4, 2005 9:12 AM PDT
In reply to: R4000 loud fan

I don't seem to have much of an issue with the fan, except when it starts to choke, be sure to keep your laptop on a flat surface and away from things like table cloths or any material that may be pulled up by the fan.

P.S. (The only thing that is really loud is the hard drive, you don't want to wake that sleeping giant)

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fan noise..
by currahee2100 / July 4, 2005 6:27 PM PDT
In reply to: R4000 loud fan

I've heard that the R4000 uses two fans. If that's true (i dont have an R4000 yet, I will soon) I believe one is to power the CPU and the other is to cool the Radeon XPress 200M. Desktop XPress 200s have a cooling fan attached to them- so the laptop one might as well.

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CPU Speed diffs???
by kendallhall / July 5, 2005 9:09 AM PDT
In reply to: fan noise..

I am about to order an R4000, but first, I want to know if it is worth buying a 4000+ instead of a 3200+. I generally like to multitask and sometimes I play games like Halo, or watch movies stored on the hard drive. I know the 4000+ has a 1MB L2 cache, whereas the 3200 has half that. Does that make much difference for what I like to do? Is it worth the extra 200 dollars, which I don't really have, for the 4000+ over the 3200+?

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One more thing...
by kendallhall / July 5, 2005 9:19 AM PDT
In reply to: CPU Speed diffs???

Is it worth the extra 25 bucks for a 12 cell battery instead of an 8 cell? Right now the specs are set at athlon 64 3200, 15.4 wxga (not briteview), 256 MB ram (will upgrade later for less $), 8-cell, 128 MB radeon, 40 GB 4200 HDD, 8x DVD drive, and integrated wireless w/o bluetooth. The only debate for me is with the battery and the CPU speed. Maybe also with the briteview versus non-briteview. Any help deciding is much appreciated. Thanks!

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One more question...
by kendallhall / July 5, 2005 10:53 AM PDT
In reply to: fan noise..

Is it worth the extra 25 bucks for a 12 cell battery instead of an 8 cell? Right now the specs are set at athlon 64 3200, 15.4 wxga (not briteview), 256 MB ram (will upgrade later for less $), 8-cell, 128 MB radeon, 40 GB 4200 HDD, 8x DVD drive, and integrated wireless w/o bluetooth. The only debate for me is with the battery and the CPU speed. Maybe also with the briteview versus non-briteview. Any help deciding is much appreciated. Thanks!

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re
by arch8300 / July 16, 2005 4:16 PM PDT
In reply to: One more question...

yes it is worth it for a 12 cell batt a little less than 50% longer batt times. and brightview if you like crystal clear images and maby some glare

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Best buy
by damasta55r / May 6, 2005 3:03 PM PDT

is HP ZV6000 at compusa.com
AMD 3500+ 15.4"Briteview WXGA, WIndows XP Home, 1GB, 100GB, DL DVD+_RW, 8-cell. $1199.99
Roger

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