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Deja Vu - a Kerry Bimbo eruption

Feb 13, 2004 5:08AM PST

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Not at all, Dave...
Feb 15, 2004 7:12PM PST

Not at all, Dave, whar we have here is another attempt by you to deflect the subject away from the thing at hand. In this case, CNN. Dave, that makes it twice now that they have been caught flat-footed in a deadout fabrication.

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Gee Josh, I kinda think that President Bush's staff is a better source of news
Feb 14, 2004 6:38AM PST

than any that we have available to us. Considering that it includes, among other things, the CIA, I think he knows a lot more about what's going on than the New York Times.

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Really?
Feb 14, 2004 8:15PM PST

The CIA can't brief him on what's going on in the cities, the job market, the economy, public opinion, anything like that. Don't you think it would be better for him to at least skim thru the NY Times as well as a few other papers, both those with a perceived liberal bias and those with a perceived conservative bias, as well as those considered more neutral? The journalists on those papers aren't in his employ and are far less likely to tell him what he wants to hear, don'tcha think?

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You think he's likely to get an unbiased viewpoint from the New York Times?
Feb 15, 2004 9:17AM PST

Thta's good, I like it! You don't think he has better sources for the job market, the economy, public opinion? Where do you think the New York Times gets its info on the job market or the economy? The government maybe? Do you think President Bush just might have access to that info? Public opinion and the conservative viewpoint in the NYT?

Josh, seriously, I have this bridge in Brooklyn. I can give you a real deal on it. Interested?

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Actually I rely on the New York Times for unbiased reporting...
Feb 15, 2004 9:23AM PST

You need to get the printed copy and hold it up to a mirror. After most everything is reversed it is pretty close to accurate.

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Did you even read my post?
Feb 15, 2004 10:08PM PST

I suggested he read the New York Times as well as other papers. Please read it now so I don't have to repeat myself.

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Yes, I did. (NT)
Feb 16, 2004 2:07AM PST

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Evie, most Dems I heard weren't slowed down by the dress. They
Feb 13, 2004 6:32AM PST

kept right on attacking Ken Starr. What were the charges against him? They don't change their tactics much do they? Just substitute any Republican name, and crank up the charges.

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Re:Its Going to Be a Long Hawl, Josh..
Feb 14, 2004 4:55AM PST

(nt)

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Re: Deja Vu - a Kerry Bimbo eruption
Feb 13, 2004 12:42PM PST

Hi, KP.

Weren't you one of those who was saying "enough of this" just a couple of days ago when I was speaking about the possible scrubbing of Bush's records? The double standard lives -- we'll see if Bo chimes in (he was the most vociferous).

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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The opinions expressed above are my own,
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No, that was Bo, and I am merely pointing to an allegation
Feb 13, 2004 3:10PM PST

mentioned on ABC. I think that's fair. Don't you?

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Sure, I'll chime in....
Feb 13, 2004 10:27PM PST

First, what has reporting (on this forum) that there is word of a possible problem with a candidates campaign got to do with continually drumming the same wrong, unfounded data on a 'charge' that had no basis in fact to begin with.

I, as is my norm, will not comment on the possible 'bimbo eruption' until there are some facts to go on. A stance you seem to be more than willing ot adhere to here, but not when it discredits the President of the United States.

If this story has legs, I will only say 'Enough' when it degenerates into the same gutter trawling that the 'AWOL' story has.

As for Drudge, I do not read him unless linked to him. He did break several stories, and is out front of the 'mainstream' media on many stories. Including some that are not flattering to the Administration.

Bo

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NT - And you trust Drudge Report? Good for you! Bring it on!!!!
Feb 13, 2004 5:07PM PST

`?

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I don't 'trust' it, I observe it. The few times I have checked Drudge,
Feb 14, 2004 6:44AM PST

he didn't have anything special to say. This story was picked up by ABC News from Drudge. Bring on what?

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Sober?
Feb 13, 2004 5:09PM PST

I hope you are aware of the fact that we currently have a sober alcoholic as President of the country!

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''We''? What's this ''we'' business?
Feb 13, 2004 6:19PM PST

Please enjoy some more of the bread, milk, freedoms, and protection that your hosts, the citizens of the US, so graciously provide for you even as you constantly and repeatedly demonstrate your shameful ingratitude.

That's our way, and we would be grateful if we were provided such gifts while we were guests in a foreign country rather than being disrespectful, sanctimonious ingrates. It's a matter of honor, a concept foreign to some I suppose.

DE

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Don't worry David...
Feb 14, 2004 6:44AM PST
"''We''? What's this ''we'' business?" - David Evans

Nobody expects you to understand...
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What is the 'we' in 'we'?
Feb 14, 2004 6:49AM PST

Are you a citizen? an honorary citizen?

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'...a sober alcoholic...'?
Feb 13, 2004 9:34PM PST

Are you saying that we should make fun of all that have fought and overcame any drinking or other dependancy problems?

You claim he's an alcoholic, and in the same phrase acknowledge he isn't drinking anymore. You imply he still has a problem while saying he doesn't.

Anyone that has ever had problems with alcohol much more severe than anything I've seen about Bush that has quit drinking will tell you it's a fight every day.

Organizations and their members will tell you they're always recovering alcoholics, never former or cured alcoholics.

If Bush was having real problems with alcohol and now has controlled them, it's a great acomplishment.

But your post seems to be derisive of that acomplishment. Or else it seems scornful of all that have ever had any similair problem and is doing their level best to live their life now on the up and up.

Are you making fun of people's flaws Charlie? are you saying that anyone with any past fault can never be trusted now? Do you expect people to be perfect? You must be disappointed by people around you all the time Charlie. Does that explain some of your constant criticism of everything in the US? You can't ever find a perfect person or policy to satisfy your search for something to worship perhaps?

Sad to imply failure while you're actually praising what is a great accomplishment by people with troubles.

Hope you someday can overcome your need to tear down everyone and everbody (perhaps to feel better about yourself in comparison?) as well as any 'sober alcoholic' has overcome theirs.

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No reply Charlie? I see you've revisited thread almost 7 hours ago.
Feb 14, 2004 1:38PM PST

No explaination on why you think a sober man is a bad thing?

No explaination on why you think (if it was so) a recovering alcoholic (one that has been sober for years?) can't be trusted?

No explanation why you slander and insult and demean a man that may have made a few mistakes when he was younger?

As I said, if you're looking for perfect people and perfect actions and perfect society (or is that perfect socialism?) you're going to be a diappointed a lot.

Or are you just trying to tear others down to feel better about yourself? I hope not, but it sometimes it seems that way.

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Feb 14, 2004 3:02PM PST
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Feb 15, 2004 1:26AM PST
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No thanks, Blake and I have had our run ins on Speakeasy before, however
Feb 15, 2004 1:46AM PST

Here is where I'll deal with it what goes on here.

Don't really think it helps much to start with that junk.

Shrug, I remember the debacle here over this before. Lots of noise, lots of denials, lots of accusations by all. No thanks

roger

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(NT) It sure is 'junk'....that's exactly what you're dealing with.
Feb 15, 2004 2:07AM PST

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7 hours? I've been waiting two years for answers to my questions!
Feb 16, 2004 4:41AM PST

But that's what trolling is all about, y'know?

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Josh...........
Feb 16, 2004 4:46AM PST

Didn't Charlie say something not to long ago about answering your questions?? I think he said he had to THINK about them! I have a feeling you will wait for eternity to get an answer from himSad

Glenda

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Re:Josh...........
Feb 16, 2004 4:50AM PST

He was going to get them to me "ASAP." And Jonah offered to give $10 to a Palestinian charity if he answered them. So far Jonah's $10 is still safe in his wallet.

Don't worry, I'm not actually expecting to get those answers (I also have no doubt that he knows the answers, which is why he won't post them); it's just fun to bring it up occasionally.

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Re:Re:Josh...........I know...
Feb 16, 2004 8:17AM PST

Seems like the only answers he wants to give is if he thinks he has a good fight going! No answers to anything he has trouble proving! Thank God that 10 bucks is still safe in Jonahs wallet! I would hate to see even 10 bucks given to that group!

Glenda

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Don't call him one...
Feb 16, 2004 6:01AM PST

simply because Billy Goat Gruff would recognize him.