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Defrag and scandisk

by jennylyn / April 23, 2004 4:00 PM PDT

I use Windows 98SE. I can't get the scandisk or defrag to work. It will run for a while then start over. It does this over and over. I have tried exiting all programs and that doesn't help either. I'm not sure why it's doing that but would love any advice I can get on what to do and how to get my computer cleaned up. Thanks in advance for your help!!!

Jen

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Re:Defrag and scandisk
by Cursorcowboy / April 23, 2004 9:25 PM PDT
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Re:Re:Defrag and scandisk
by bobb64 / April 23, 2004 11:50 PM PDT
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also try them in safe mode; by restarting and holding control and option 3. Make sure anti virus software is closed.

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NT - Why do something more complicated than stated?
by Cursorcowboy / May 28, 2004 11:44 PM PDT

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Re:Re:Defrag and scandisk
by Phate / May 28, 2004 7:47 AM PDT
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There is a cool, easy to use program available called Diskeeper. Search for it through Google.
Download the 'free' trial software (for 15 days).
Use it to defrag your system. You can even leave it running in the background so you don't need to remember to defrag!
If you like the program you can buy it for about $20.

Cheers,

Phate

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NT - Why do something more complicated than stated that eats ''resources''?
by Cursorcowboy / May 28, 2004 11:45 PM PDT

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Re:Defrag and scandisk
by CharleyO / April 24, 2004 11:40 AM PDT
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Did you try using MSconfig from Start...Run...type in msconfig...Startup tab to stop all unneeded programs?

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Run Defrag In Safe Mode
by pfeffer3 / April 24, 2004 11:53 AM PDT
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Turn computer on and immediately hold down the F8 key until Safe Mode option appears.

When finished running defrag, turn computer off/back on.

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Re:Defrag and scandisk
by Bob G / April 24, 2004 1:58 PM PDT
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I have found that scandisk runs much better in the true DOS mode. Start - Shutdown - Restart in DOS

When I run defrag I use the file only mode. Much faster
defrag /U

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Re:Re:Defrag and scandisk
by Ell-Jay / April 25, 2004 11:45 PM PDT
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I tried running defrag, but didn't realize that if there is ANY user-caused disk activity at all, the utility starts over again (not from scratch, fortunately).

If a screensaver comes on and you want to track the progress of the defrag by jiggling the mouse to restore the screen, that's user-caused disk activity.

Deactivate screensaver if you want to track progress, or just leave the machine absolutely alone for several hours, if need be.

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by Bob G / April 27, 2004 6:37 AM PDT

This responce should have been posted to the opening post. The settings I use eliminate the need to turn off programs and/or use safe mode.

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Re:Defrag and scandisk
by StormAzul / May 1, 2004 4:34 AM PDT
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In Win98SE, the most efficient way to run Scandisk, THEN defrag:
1) close or exit any open programs:
a) any program icons showing on the taskbar that allow a close, disable or exit.
b) any programs running in the background can be found with Ctrl-Alt-Delete, then End Task ALL of them EXCEPT Systray and Explorer.
c) set Screensaver to none.
2) Open ScanDisk
a) select either Standard (weekly) or Thorough (monthly, will take a while, just let it run.
b) make sure the box is checked for Automatically fix errors.
Note: Not closing open programs will cause ScanDisk to continually restart. After 10 restarts, it will ask if you want to continue or quit.
Defrag only after running ScanDisk.
After running ScanDisk and Defrag, a restart will reset all programs back to normal. Screensaver will need to be reset manually.

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Re:Defrag and scandisk
by mcdaddydouble_d / May 28, 2004 8:44 AM PDT
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Jen;

I use the same operating system as you do. And I've had the same, and probably worse, problems that you are having at this time. That is, defraging my unit.

Anyway, after numerous attempts and a tremendous amount of fustration I looked to PC World magazine that offers numerous other sites to download ancillary defragmenters and such on a free trial period. I found them to be very useful.

When the free tial period runs out in thirty days (or whatever) you can try another and another and so on. You can also go to www.download.com for another source.

If you can't find a cure for your problem---and I doubt whether you will---you can always try this route. I have; and now I'm a happy camper---for say.

I hope you the best of luck.

Ciao.

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Re:Re:Defrag and scandisk
by ARTGOOCH / June 4, 2004 2:08 AM PDT
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I WAS HAVING SIMILAR PROBLEMS UNTIL I TURNED OFF MY SCREENSAVER.
IT KEPT INTERRUPTING MY DEFRAN, SCAN DISC PROGRAMS.
EASY FIX
HOPE IT WORKS
ART

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NT - Why do something more complicated than stated in my first above?
by Cursorcowboy / June 4, 2004 2:51 AM PDT

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Re:Defrag and scandisk
by guess / June 4, 2004 2:40 AM PDT
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Iam certainly no expert but Ive had that problem too ...what I had to do is ....close all running programs useing cntrl alt del (except for explorer)then go to Control Panel-Display-Screensaver-Settings set for max mins. apply...drop to Energy settings ...set those for what ever ...lets say 3 hours each ...apply.
what this does is allow uninterrupted running of scandisk or defrag ...at least it works for me ...whats happening is you maintence is being interrupted...and may try to restart several times till its timed out

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NT - Why do something more complicated than stated in my first above?
by Cursorcowboy / June 4, 2004 2:49 AM PDT
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Re:Defrag and scandisk
by kasey / June 6, 2004 9:46 AM PDT
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I have found that the only way to keep it going is to take your screen saver off. For some reason it keeps restarting with it on. Once you turn it off, I have better luck with running a full system scan & defrag!

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Re: Defrag and scandisk
by shaleboy / June 25, 2004 3:12 AM PDT
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Have you increased the time before your screen saver comes on?

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Re: Defrag and scandisk
by vasishth / November 23, 2004 8:17 AM PST
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Try turning off your Screensaver. If that doesn't work, try rebooting your machine in Safe Mode--choose Restart and hold down the Control key until prompted to choose the mode you want to run in, and then choose Safe Mode. After start-up is complete, run Disk Tuneup or Scan Disk or what have you.

Good luck,

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Re: Defrag and scandisk
by robertjsandor / November 25, 2004 4:06 PM PST
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StormAzul and Cursercowboy are the only two responders with the simplest and CORRECT answer to your problem.
Screen Saver must be set to NONE.
There is no reason whatsoever to go to DOS, or to buy programs or to download free programs.
The Defrag program that comes with every Computer will work flawlessly if everyone would remember; after shutting down running programs, to turn off Screensaver.

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