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Death & Coronavirus, COVID-19, A Constant.

Apr 20, 2020 3:11PM PDT

We are just chasing our tail on this. EVERYONE will eventually run into this virus, and I suspect the same number in the end will be dead, whether it's sooner, or later. Those who are destined to die, will die. I give you an example. Say you have 12 boxes, all exactly the same area, and let that represent the dead. Those doing the social distancing, the stay at home rules, are like 12 boxes placed in a long line of boxes. Those like Sweden, with more openness are instead those same boxes arranged in a group that is 3 rows of 4 in each row. The same number of dead, no matter how you arrange the boxes. The long line of boxes are "flatten the curve" countries, which alleviates immediate strain on hospital services by drawing the death rate across longer time line, but at expense of their economy. The stacked boxes are those which have the same number of destined deaths happen quickly, but their economy suffers the least, the populations freedoms suffer the least. The main factor is Time, not eventual number of dead. Consider the dead, like the area in the boxes, no matter the timeline for each country, is a set figure for both, the "flatten the curve" approach, or the "get it over quick" approach. There is nothing at this time such as vaccination, which could favor the "flatten the curve" approach, and the timeline of waiting for a vaccination is too long probably to favor the "flatten the curve" crowd. Yes, some who will die eventually, get a few weeks, maybe months, to live, but die they will anyway. Increasing the time till that happens also gives families more time and chance to spend quality time with those destined to die, so that's another advantage to flatten the curve approach. Which is better? Keep an economy running, people working, not losing so much of the savings, not requiring so much govt money for relief, and coming out of this quicker, OR stretching out the suffering, a longer period of depression, both of economy and emotional, mental? I believe the death rate in the end, no matter which approach is done, will be exactly the same.

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Exactly what I've been
Apr 21, 2020 3:59AM PDT

trying to say in here for weeks that's been falling not on deaf ears but argumentative ones.....thanks.

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Some things we'll probably never know
Apr 21, 2020 4:23AM PDT

and some things we have no ability to know. The old saying that hind sight is 20/20 will be used frequently once we get through this. I can't help but wonder if such things are part of the natural processes that we have little or no control over. How many species have become extinct over the course of time that life has existed on our planet. Here's where we can get into so many religious and moral arguments. That, I know....seen it over and over. I also recall saying here many time something about "Mom Nature (add you changes to her name here) takes no prisoners" when someone tries to work around her plan. Could this just be a natural "culling of the herd" that is actually a grimly disguised benefit to our planet and human population? None of us will be here to use our own hind sight to evaluate this event in history.

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(NT) ... or, there's the Bible ...
Apr 21, 2020 4:47PM PDT
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RE: I believe the death rate in the end, no matter which app
Apr 21, 2020 4:55AM PDT
I believe the death rate in the end, no matter which approach is done, will be exactly the same.

Don't take people to the hospital...take them to the cemetery?
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There's an idea
Apr 21, 2020 1:47PM PDT

The fresh air might do them better than breathing hospital air. It's always too cold, too dry, and now filled with floating virus to increase their load of viral infection. Actually, this might work better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXak82Uqg1g

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What about the Rev. Jonathon Swift's idea?
Apr 21, 2020 4:54PM PDT

Disproportionate number of victims are elderly and poor.
'It's just the circle of life.' -Disney
'The strongest survive, ensuring success of the species.' -Darwin