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Dear lord another one.

Oct 1, 2015 3:32PM PDT

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Yep.
Oct 3, 2015 4:30AM PDT

Seems this one was a British export.

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And another call for gun control as the solution
Oct 4, 2015 5:41AM PDT

I'd be more than willing to listen to a plan that guarantee guns would likely not get into the hands of this kind of person. It makes little sense to make laws with no teeth and/or are selectively enforced. We have created an environment that doesn't allow for action until after a criminal act has been committed and the perp goes through a very generous process of law that favors him rather than the victim. Until we correct the leaks in our legal system, there's not much sense in believing new laws will cause criminal behavior to slow.

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how to stop criminals?
Oct 4, 2015 6:01AM PDT
"We have created an environment that doesn't allow for action until after a criminal act has been committed..."

What could we do before? Gun control doesn't work for people like this, who obsess and plan, they will find a way to get what they want to do what they want. We can't "think" someone might commit a crime and arrest them on general suspicion.

When it comes to adequate punishment we are told the death penalty isn't a deterrent and that's correct in cases like this where the person will kill himself anyway, or push police into doing it. I do believe the death penalty is a deterrent to those who are more rational, but how many of these type shootings are done by rational people?

Why do they pick schools and churches? Because they can be sure most likely they will be the only one armed?

As I see it, there's little we can do other than deal with the situation after a wacko goes off the deep end, unless we have some sufficient warning. Even then they might pick someone up for questioning, hold 48 hours, or put in 72 hour psyche ward for testing, but most are back out on street in a week at the longest and then more determined than before to do it.

So, what actions would you suggest might have prevented this?
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True!
Oct 4, 2015 8:02AM PDT

You can't legislate for a nutter, but if you put said nutter where the guns are, problems ensue. Sad to read he was Brit born though.
Dafydd.

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You need to stop sounding reasonable and practical
Oct 5, 2015 5:26AM PDT

You'll never get elected to any government office with an attitude like that. To land a job with legislative or executive branches, you need to come up with solutions that allow the public to remain dumb, fat and happy without lifting a finger on its own. Wink