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Dead Malls

by James Denison / January 16, 2016 4:54 PM PST
The first image is Akron, Ohio. Macy's is closing stores now too, including one in Owing Mills, Maryland, a mall built only 30 years ago. They do still serve one purpose, for free parking and where children can go and ride bikes. Right now if someone wanted to rubber tramp around the country they could find plenty of these places to park in for a night or a week and not have to pay a penny for the privilege. Hmm, maybe some could find renewed life as Mobile Home or Transient Parking areas. One former Walmart store near here was turned into a truck stop with overnight parking.
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We have places that look like your picture
by Steven Haninger / January 17, 2016 6:38 AM PST
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Our most popular mall lasted about 20 years. It was downtown and meant to revitalize the area. It did well for a while and brought in stores that one doesn't see outside of New York, Chicago, etc. Eventually, it earned a reputation for being too dangerous to be around...especially at night. Young thugs moved in as did panhandlers. I suppose that was to be expected but the security guards there had no real way to control them. There were a few gang incidents and one shooting death. That was the beginning of the end. Most of the media coverage downplayed the real reason the place was failing. It was bulldozed around 2009. We're had other malls fail as well. Some of it has been due to larger more modern malls being built too closely to old ones but those old ones were also experiencing some of the same crime problems as the downtown mall. You didn't go to these places after dark. A lot of the better stores are building in clusters but with entrances that open to the outdoors. I could expect that the enclosed mall could become a thing of the past. It's just too easy for folks who aren't interested in shopping...or doing so with their own money...to loiter and get into trouble. Here's a link to dozens of mall closure stories.


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Strange activity here
by Steven Haninger / January 19, 2016 2:24 PM PST

I posted this a couple of days ago but it didn't show up. I tried it in the test forum and it seemed to reject the link. I made the post again without the link and it went through fine. I suspected the link was blocked for some reason but it looked innocuous to me. So, today, it shows up and now we have essentially a dupe. These forums are getting to be a surprise a minute. Happy

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We've had a number of malls fail
by Steven Haninger / January 17, 2016 6:55 AM PST
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There are many reasons, it seems. Some happen because a newer mall is place too close to an existing one but most of them here seem to fail when crime moves in. Our beautiful downtown mall was closed about 6-7 years ago and was only about 20 years old. It was quite successful in revitalizing that area but young thugs and panhandlers moved in and made people feel uncomfortable or unsafe. After a shooting death on an escalator, things went downhill. It was no longer a place to go after work or in the dark. It became scary. Some of the outlying malls experienced crime problems as well. Two are gone and another is on life support. It seems some of the better stores are building away from malls. They still cluster together but their entrances are from the out of doors rather than a mall enclosure. Too much loitering goes on in those places and, unfortunately, they become hangouts for teens and criminals looking to mug someone. I expect the trend away from the enclosed mall might continue.

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RE:Macy's is closing stores now too,
by JP Bill / January 19, 2016 1:23 PM PST
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Malls, pricing killed them
by Willy / January 20, 2016 1:42 PM PST
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Overall, I haven't gone to any because whatever they offer if too darn costly. The real killer is "online shopping" for practically the same items and for now at least free S/H, too. In our area, only 1 mall still is around, all others went downhill over time and when they didn't do much upkeep it hasten the exit. Not, only that but outisde of crime issues, many a mall started in the upper tier to begin with, you rarely went there for your true day-to-day items maybe clothes, OK but anything else, at least i didn't. I never was going to pay more x-dollars for something I could get at K-mart, Wal-mart or similar. Now, I'm talking malls, NOT shopping centers which seem to be more main street shopping like food, basic clothing, or pet foods, etc.. I'm sure there are other reasons many a mall closed, but at least for me I didn't need much from them, but my girlee friends may differ at least yrs. ago. I miss those huge cookies from some vendors and probably the Orange Julius. Wink -----Willy Happy

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I blame it on the "mall walkers" and not the criminals
by Steven Haninger / January 20, 2016 2:18 PM PST

You know...it's the old gray haired people in the frumpy clothes and sneakers doing laps in the mornings. When they leave, the scent of Mentholatum and Ben Gay lingers for hours. Who'd want to shop there after that? Happy

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LOL, you might have something there
by James Denison / January 20, 2016 5:56 PM PST

I never did the morning mall walk because I don't like visiting malls anyway and I always felt safer from flu or something else than walking where hours before a few thousand had coughed and sneezed and then a bunch of old people with ailments doing the same. Home and open air is the best way in winter to avoid illness.

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That was tongue in cheek, of course
by Steven Haninger / January 21, 2016 1:54 AM PST

I am old people too but I do remember seeing groups of senior citizens in the early morning doing their walks. I suspect the proprietors of the shops didn't mind them being there before store opening. Of course the coffee and pastry places were in operation. I do my walking in our Metro and do these mostly in cooler months when the trees are bare. I prefer paths of clay and gravel with the occasional root sticking up. I also go pick the parks with changes in elevation. These work muscles that flat ground does not. I'd not be inclined to mall walk...too much like work.

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