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data recovery for Mac

Nov 5, 2005 6:23PM PST

I have been really stupid this time!

I upgraded my Mac from 10.2.8 to Tiger, with an Erase and Install (necessary because I had a glitch in my system). I had everying backed up on an external hard disk - so I thought. But when I came to access my iPhoto albums every picture had vanished. Seems to me that the albums must have been merely aliases, and the real stuff was actually on my hard disk. It's really heartbreaking - they were irreplacable photos taken on my digital camera over several years.

How can I go about trying to get them back? They are presumably still on my HD, unless the Erase and Install has destroyed them. They might also be on a CD-RW where I formerly stored all this stuff, but has since been quick erased using Roxio.

I am loathe to shell out huge amounts to one of these firms that advertise, with no guarantee that I'll be able to recover anything. I'd be grateful for any thought.

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Oh, Woe is You!
Nov 5, 2005 9:57PM PST

I guess it is no use crying over spilt milk or asking what sort of "glitch" in your system required an Erase and Install (I'm curious on that one) What does confuse me is that your backup does not contain the pictures.
Questions:
What, exactly, did you backup from the internal drive to the external? I have a feeling that you backed up the iPhoto Application and NOT the /~/Documents/Pictures/iPhoto Library.
Did you backup your Documents folder? If you did, you are in with a chance of recovery. Check on the external drive for that folder. Check inside for the Pictures folder and inside that for iPhoto anything. If it exists, drag it from the external to the internal and put it in our Documents/Pictures folder. Cross your fingers, restart iPhoto and hold your breath.
If they are not there, I think the chances of recovery as rather slim, even with the big bucks. When you installed Tiger, you Initialized (formatted) the HD. This destroys, for all practical purposes, the data on the HD. This is why is warned you that this was going to happen and even got you to agree to it. Tiger was then laid down on the disk along with all the other bits and pieces including iPhoto, and here is the kicker, OVER the top of where 10.2.8 (and your pictures) was originally installed. Had you stopped after the Erase and before the install, your chances of recovery were good. Now that the drive has been written over, your chances of recovery are less than stellar.
Storing data on a CD is a good idea, ready made for occasions such as this, but erasing the CD, heap bad idea. I have never got into the CD-R/W thing. For the price of a CD-R, < 10c, just burn your copies and store them. Don't use an R/W as permanent storage, chances are that you will need a disk one day and ..........you know the rest.
Let us know about what you actually backed up and whether you found anything
Good Luck

P

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Mac data recovery
Nov 5, 2005 11:49PM PST

Yes, I think woes is me. I didn't copy across Documents, but simply held my iPhot Library on the external HD. I thought it should have been safe and sound there, but apparently not.

Is there any chance the data could be recovered from the CD, even though it has been quick erased? Does anyone know?

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I don't know the answer to that one
Nov 6, 2005 1:05AM PST

hopefully, someone else does

P

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Oh, Woe is You!
Nov 6, 2005 9:54AM PST

Pete, great imfo for us all to think about.
What a shame loosing all your photos!
What are photo alius's about.
Why would you have an alius in the first place?
I have all my photos back up on many CD's, beside the External hard drive.
Your tip for a CD Vs/CDRW makes sense. Thanks.

-Kevin

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Why photo aliases?
Jun 22, 2006 10:22PM PDT

I love the slideshow screen saver on my 20" G5, but don't want to see every one of the 1,000+ photos I've collected since the early 90's. So see the pix I want, or want others to enjoy on the slide show, I move aliases of photos I choose to see slide across my screen for the first half hour or so when the machine is on snooze.

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First things first
Nov 10, 2005 9:03PM PST

You need to stop using that hard disk right away. Continuing to use it may cause more damage.

I am currently testing a program called filesalvage. It's taking quite a while. I'll post later with it's success or failure. After going through nine of sixty gigs it reports it's found 267 recoverable files. It looks promising.

It also had a preview of images that can be recovered.

Cheers,
john

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Probably a little late now:
Nov 10, 2005 9:43PM PST

I guess the drive has been in use now since before the original post and given that he reinstalled the OS after the formatl, it is fairly certain that iPhoto was written over the by the new iPhoto installation.
FileSalvage looks like a good program, I like SubRosa stuff, but even they say:
"FileSalvage can recover most deleted files which have not subsequently been written over. Due to the way data is distributed when being written to a drive, there are still decent chances of recovering your files even if you have copied small amount of data onto your drive since deleting the files." Operative word here is "small amount". This drive has a complete OS and the "Backup Restore" written to it.

I look forward to your future posts about the effectiveness of the program.

P

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Data Recovery for MAC OS
Nov 10, 2005 11:01PM PST

The latest versions of OS 10 are based on pure UNIX which means there's very little chance of recovery because UNIX instantly overwrites all deleted files.
However...
My name is Frank Villarreal, CEO of Advance Data Recovery int'l Inc. and if you'll send us the drive we'll only charge you a small diagnostic fee and if it is recoverable I'll let you name your price for the recovery. My way of saving your arms and legs (we don't accept those as payment anymore). The same goes for the CD (which is more likely to yield a positive result). Go to our website www.adrecovery.com for contact information. Call me directly if you like.

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David, do what I did.
Nov 11, 2005 11:23AM PST

Sorry to hear of your mishap. I had a similar problem when a software security suite took my Dell Dimension Desktop 8300 captive and blocked access to the address book, email, and internet service. That's when I got a Mac. I am solely a customer of Apple Corp. I do not hold their stock. No relatives or friends work there, either. I have ProCare & DotMac service. Procare lets me reserve a date and time for a Mac Genius to thoroughly check out the Mac. I did this when it crashed after a power failure; no harm done.

Dot Mac service is cyberspace storage located at Apple company. Even really old data from my first Dell and the 8300 was transferred to the Mac. Ask if they can do this for you. It may be under warantee. A friend strongly recommended I have this service because I live in an apartment. As I said, I am a customer only. I am job hunting. Good luck to you, C. Phantom

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Phantom
Nov 11, 2005 2:02PM PST

Nice info from you. And good news!
What does a service like this cost from Apple?

-Kevin

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data recovery for your CDRW
Nov 11, 2005 1:55PM PST

If you still have that disk there is a program that will restore the info for you.
Go to Image Recall.com.
The program costs about $35.
You can also get a trial version to use that will let you recover ten files before you purchase the program.
One of my co-workers restored all my files that were reformatted on a 250MB compact flash card with ImageRecall. ALL 359 images were recovered. The program works with CDs as well.
The key to recovery is to not use the original disk that was erased until you can recover the data from a program like this.

-Kevin

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Try this....
Nov 11, 2005 10:01PM PST
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Your CD RW
Nov 14, 2005 11:46AM PST

The quick erase you did to the CDRW disk just erased the directory for the disk, not the files. If you haven't used it since then, your files are there. Most data recovery software should be able to get them, but for photo's I've had the best luck with a shareware program called "File Juicer".

Good Luck!

Lampie

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theory
Jun 21, 2006 6:51PM PDT

hi,

are you based in the UK? just had a drive fixed for university work from www.retrodata.co.uk and they did a brilliant job at recovering data at a cheap price with speedy delivery

although this sound like an ad... it's not. they were really good!

i think they do overseas aswell from what i can gather from the site

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Theory
Jun 22, 2006 12:43PM PDT

Image Recall can obtain data from a CD or memory card. ImageRecall.com. One of my friends retrieved the data for me. Cost me a good bottle of wine.
It does work. Saved and retrieved 365 files from a memory card last year.
They have a free test. Worth it.
$35-$39 I think for the software. Excellent retrieval software.

-Kevin