iRiver H10 doesn't have video and there is also the Toshiba Gigabeat. If you're not going to use the video on the Vision M it makes no sense to buy it. Last generation of mp3 was pretty good. You don't hear many complants about the Gigabeat, perhaps that's because few people have them, so I'd really checkout that player.
Well this ticks me off, because im not really gonna use it for movies, mainly music, but 8Gb for the Micro is too small for me. Ive checked out many Mp3 players for about a month and creative's turn out to be the must realiable and have the most features, I checked out the sleek and others but i cant stand the blue back light and the green/black ones. The Micro would be perfect, but its not big enough for my music collection. The Vision:m is sexy little thing and its the best mp3 player i could find, But i cant just blow a whole check on it. Any thoughts??