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Question

CPU Keeps Going To 100% Programs Not Responding, NEED HELP!

Mar 20, 2017 7:38PM PDT

It just recently started doing this, but I would record with OBS and I would get an encoding overloaded, which I used to not get that, it just started. Anyway, my video would be all choppy. When I would go to edit a video, the program (sony vegas), when I would hit pause or something like that, it would not respond, and 30 seconds later it will. Sometimes it would not respond at all. My CPU % would jump to 100% and not go back down until the program would respond. And it keeps doing that. My brother and my dad built this computer 4 years ago, and the only things left from the original build is the CPU and MB. I think it could be the CPU but i'm not sure. My CPU has 2 physical cores but 4 logical cores (thats what task manager said). I would like to know what the problem is. Would upgrading my CPU fix it? What is the problem? Thanks in advance! And here are my specs:
AMD A10 5800K
XFX R7 370
16GB PNY Ram
500GB Segate 7200rpm Hard Drive
500GB Segate 5400rpm Hard Drive
Thermaltake 650W 80+ Bronze Power Supply
(If I missed anything let me know)

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Answer
I'd test those old HDDs.
Mar 21, 2017 8:48AM PDT

One of the signs of a wonky HDD is what you noted. Those drives are old enough and a make I see this on.

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How can it be the HDDs?
Mar 21, 2017 3:47PM PDT

How can it be the hard drives? My CPU % keeps jumping to 100% randomly and my programs wont respond. Can it be the HDDs?

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Agree with Bob.
Mar 21, 2017 4:00PM PDT

Those Seagates are a bit iffy.
Dafydd.

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?
Mar 21, 2017 4:05PM PDT

But how could it be the HDDs?

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Windows, right or wrong will go 100% CPU
Mar 21, 2017 4:22PM PDT

If there are read or write errors. It will keep trying and this is one of the common signs of problematic HDD.

Today I no longer test the drive but suggest the owner just move to SSD and get over the problem. Why?

Shop fee per hour is 150USD. Testing can take 2 hours. 500GB SSD can be under 150 and we'll install for free.

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HDDs
Mar 21, 2017 4:27PM PDT

So, my hdds could be bad and that is why my CPU % keeps going to 100%? What if its not my HDDs? Could it be the CPU, it is 4 years old and is an amd a10 5800k.

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Tell us about your cleaning regime.
Mar 21, 2017 4:33PM PDT

That is, canned air and thermal paste.
Dafydd.

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100% Usage Not Temp.
Mar 21, 2017 4:38PM PDT

It keeps going to 100% usage not the temps, i dont have anything open and it will do it. And when i do, the programs will not respond.

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Still want to check your cleaning.
Mar 21, 2017 4:40PM PDT

Any client that tells me it's not heat, gets a nod and we check anyway.

Tell us the last time you did the canned air work.

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You just added another reason for the HDDs to be tested.
Mar 21, 2017 4:37PM PDT

It's a common problem so you do the tests. I can see folk that don't have exposure to a lot of machines want it to be something else so here's my test.

1. CHKDSK /F the drives (Grif tells us at https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/hp-pavilion-hard-drive-writing-all-the-time-163987/#post-62f98f04-d06d-4ddd-9f26-7f2670668c35 and other posts.)

2. Complete ALL the scans at http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/how-to-remove-pup-option-603542/#post-f742c795-5881-433b-a29b-6d758efe5cd3 (and in safe mode too.) These must come up clean.

3. Repeat the CHDKSK /F

This might stop it, it might not.

4. Give me a SPECCY report and I'll read it for Torrent use and other signs.
Read https://www.piriform.com/docs/speccy/using-speccy/publishing-a-speccy-profile-to-the-web

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still
Mar 21, 2017 4:56PM PDT

You still havent told me how it could be the HDDs making my CPU usage go up to 100%

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Still
Mar 21, 2017 6:28PM PDT

If the hdd is having trouble reading data then the cpu could get busy trying over and over.

Testing the hdd is easy and if it shows up clean then cross it off the list and move on to the next area.

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Okay
Mar 21, 2017 6:51PM PDT

Okay, thanks for telling me. How do I do that. Also could there be a chance that the problem is my CPU?

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How do I do that
Mar 21, 2017 7:04PM PDT

Google>chkdsk.

Also could there be a chance that the problem is my CPU?
Anything is possible that's why you test stuff and then cross it off the list if it shows up good.

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I did it
Mar 21, 2017 7:42PM PDT

I did it, and it said it found no problems. Does that mean that it is not my HDD?

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I did it
Mar 21, 2017 7:52PM PDT

Tell how you 'did it'.

40 mins to run chkdsk correctly on 2 hdd's seems a little short.

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Here is how
Mar 21, 2017 7:57PM PDT

I only did one HDD because i dont have anything on the other. I went into Admin Command Promt and typed CHKDSK, and it did it, and after 5 min it said no problems found.

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Chkdsk
Mar 21, 2017 8:13PM PDT

If all you typed was 'chkdsk' that just gives a status report, not what you want.

Go back to google and learn how to run chkdsk to check the disk.

Hint>>>>look at the 'R' option.

Run it on both disk.

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Why the second disk
Mar 21, 2017 8:17PM PDT

Why the second disk, it doesn't have anything on it, like at all. And I saw the r option, I'll do it in the morning, I already turned off my PC.

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2nd disk
Mar 21, 2017 8:35PM PDT

Just to be sure both disk are good before crossing it off the list.

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im not sure
Mar 22, 2017 4:08PM PDT

im not sure i did it right, i did it and it (chkdsk /r) and it immediately jumped to 100% no problems found

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Chkdsk
Mar 22, 2017 4:31PM PDT

It should take about an hour maybe more.

If it jumps to 100% in seconds you did not do it right.

Back to google and do some reading about chkdsk and how to run it.

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It just finished
Mar 22, 2017 7:18PM PDT

It just finished, how do i tell what is wrong

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You just finished reading
Mar 22, 2017 7:45PM PDT

about chkdsk and how to run it using a Google search and now asking
" how do i tell what is wrong " ?
Maybe read it again .....

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results
Mar 22, 2017 8:02PM PDT

Here are the results:

Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.

A disk check has been scheduled.
Windows will now check the disk.

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
541952 file records processed.

File verification completed.
15662 large file records processed.

0 bad file records processed.


Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
644196 index entries processed.

Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files scanned.

0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.


Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
Cleaning up 2542 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 2542 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 2542 unused security descriptors.
CHKDSK is compacting the security descriptor stream
Security descriptor verification completed.
51123 data files processed.

CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
34330992 USN bytes processed.

Usn Journal verification completed.

Stage 4: Looking for bad clusters in user file data ...
541936 files processed.

File data verification completed.

Stage 5: Looking for bad, free clusters ...
7142257 free clusters processed.

Free space verification is complete.
Correcting errors in the master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute.
Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.

Windows has made corrections to the file system.
No further action is required.

487821311 KB total disk space.
458386488 KB in 311393 files.
205548 KB in 51126 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
660247 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
28569028 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
121955327 total allocation units on disk.
7142257 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
00 45 08 00 a0 87 05 00 0d 44 0a 00 00 00 00 00 .E.......D......
2b b5 00 00 8b 72 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 +....r..........

Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts.

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Chkdsk
Mar 22, 2017 9:55PM PDT

That looks ok.
Free space is getting a little tight, perhaps archive or uninstall some unneeded stuff.
Run a pass of ccleaner with the stock settings, don't use the reg cleaner.
Run a pass of defrag, just to squeeze up stuff.

The second hdd, either unplug it or run chkdsk on it.

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HDD
Mar 23, 2017 4:50AM PDT

Does that mean it is not my HDD?

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Hdd
Mar 23, 2017 8:04AM PDT

No....it means chkdsk is happy with it.

Let's say it 95% not your hdd.
If you want the other 5% replace the hdd.

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Okay
Mar 23, 2017 3:13PM PDT

so what can it be

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What can it be
Mar 23, 2017 7:45PM PDT

It could be many things.
You get to try stuff and see what the results are.