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could you give up X

Nov 1, 2018 12:24PM PDT

As in carbohydrates, whatever.

It seems many diets will make one give up something. I'm of the opinion that
moderation is key. And some recent data has suggested that even saturated fats are not that bad - in moderation . I would venture that fruits, vegetables and meats should be mixed quite equally - to me bread and rice, etc are maybe necessary but not as much as we'd like to think. I really don't know. Anyhow, what is the food you would most not like to give up, were it shown to be bad for one's health?

Rick "Pizza must be served at least monthly" Jones

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Pizza hugger!
Nov 1, 2018 12:28PM PDT

Moderation is indeed the key. In fact, the USDA has a list of American eating problems: sugar, fats, salt, immoderation.
You can have my food when you pry it from my cold, dead, chubby, greasy fingers!

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Well said
Nov 1, 2018 2:32PM PDT

Although the USDA has been wrong about some things - and that also goes for many other governmental agencies - they are better than the "received wisdom" mostly.

Come to think of it, Pizza does involve quite a bit of bread... Dang. My mother, now departed for some years, often said the one thing she really missed in some diets was the bread. To me, the smell of fresh baked bread has an almost hypnotic pull, and the simple pleasure of, say, a baguette with butter is singularly magnificent. I'll never forget the first time I devoured a croissant. Anyway, that must mean I'm gonna die pretty soon - but as I said elsewhere here I will accept the penalty.

I can't help but ask - do you or your faith have any proscriptions about food? I guess I could do a web-search but that would not give the individual. Ignore if I'm being too personal. (!)

Rick

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It's bread??? I thought the baguette was a weapon!!!
Nov 1, 2018 4:02PM PDT

Good question.
Some of us fast, for health or other reasons. That's neither forbidden nor commanded.
1Tim 4:1-5 discusses unchristian food abstinence ["commanded"], and its source.
Acts 15:20,29 say "abstain frim blood". Our "problem, as the world sees it, is that we extend that to transfusions. That, as you may know, has proved a protection for us in these latter days.
The full story is at
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-about-blood-transfusion/#?insight[search_id]=eddcf725-9db7-461d-b9a6-deef5e6723be&insight[search_result_index]=2
and
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/blood-transfusions/
No salesman will call. Batteries not included.

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(NT) It is when it's dry
Nov 1, 2018 5:08PM PDT
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In France...
Nov 1, 2018 5:41PM PDT

getting clobbered by a baguette is considered a pain in the neck.
Dafydd.

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(NT) Bilingual pun! Excellent!
Nov 1, 2018 10:12PM PDT
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Good to see you got that Doug.
Nov 2, 2018 3:47PM PDT

I actually used that in a french restaurant with some friends. Devil
Dafydd.

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(NT) Youch !
Nov 2, 2018 3:41PM PDT
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"the quality of being excessive and lacking in restraint;
Nov 1, 2018 2:40PM PDT

"the quality of being excessive and lacking in restraint; overindulgence."

I noticed this was not "in moderation." Here you go!

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You are a demon, Robert !
Nov 1, 2018 2:45PM PDT

But I love the pic regardless! Talk about "deep dish" !?

Rick " Thin crust is healthier, right? Right! " Jones

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(NT) So THAT'S a pizza pie!
Nov 1, 2018 4:05PM PDT
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I won't give up meat
Nov 1, 2018 12:33PM PDT

But I do eat it in moderation.

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But then...
Nov 1, 2018 2:41PM PDT

What is moderate? :^)

My fave anecdote is my co-worker's story about his cousin who loved bacon so much he ate about a pound of it every day. Perhaps because of this his died at the age of forty - then again he lived next to a paper-mill, which in those days (and maybe still) output quite a few carcinogens.

This news has caused me to restrict my bacon intake somewhat - though not entirely.

Rick " walking dead " Jones

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(NT) Paper making is one of the nastiest operations going
Nov 1, 2018 4:04PM PDT
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Being Italian
Nov 2, 2018 4:04AM PDT

and a quad-bypass surgery survivor (22 years already), I've never even considered giving up my homemade spaghetti or my chicken wings or pork chops or shrimp Alfredo fettuccini or my black licorice or chocolate candy. LOL

My 'diet' sucks if you ask a doctor because I rarely have fresh fruit or veggies except in the summer with the garden because I only 'shop' once a month and stock up and those things don't keep for any longer than a few days usually, but I work hard physically in my 'yard' (three plus acres around the house that need to be maintained) for 8-9 months out of the year so a lot of walking is involved on land that is anything but flat (what looks flat isn't and kiddy pools always have more water on one side than the other), and I'm always working on new projects out there.

I am heavier than I should be by about ten pounds but at 72 now feel and look much younger (I'm told), and I think 'diet' recommendations are over rated. I go on binges where I will make oven baked/grilled garlic bread as a snack for a week or more just because I all of a sudden crave it and then not even think about it for months again....or want pork chops for every meal in different ways and then have them be replaced with spaghetti for four days in a row.

My meds are the same that I've taken for over 20 years (and one of them I rarely take anymore for cholesterol), blood work every year seems to indicate I'm 'fine', and I haven't seen a cardiologist in years other than to have an echo done every once in a while. Back when I had my bypass, I was told they normally don't last longer than 7-10 years and actually had quite a number of my neighbors have the same surgery and within that time frame be buried. Sometimes I wonder how many of them actually DID the 'exercise' part of their recovery and took that part seriously and how many just got scared and sat down on the couch afraid to move for fear of 'straining' that brand new functioning heart?

To actually answer your question....I wouldn't give up anything and didn't. I eat what I want without being a glutton, sometimes crave a fresh Navel Orange (then open a can of Mandarin oranges instead)
and get back outside to dig in the dirt for a while.

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JFK
Nov 2, 2018 11:48AM PDT

He was elected in 1960, so how could you have been old enough to have voted for him then, especially since the voting age then was still 21? Earlier you posted you voted for him. Maybe you meant your parents did?

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LOL...you're right
Nov 2, 2018 12:29PM PDT

My older sister is the one who actually voted for him, but even as a teenager I was pretty well educated regarding politics and knew I would have. I also followed his brother Bobby's career afterward and his politics were also very agreeable to me at that time and would have voted for him (my next pick was George Romney)….but both were gone by the time the convention was held for the nominee. I stupidly picked Nixon and regretted it almost immediately.


There were very few people in my age bracket back then that thought anything about their futures regarding what politicians could do to them and was considered a 'four-eyed geek'....lol

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Great !
Nov 2, 2018 3:39PM PDT

For me, re-taking-up cycling about ten years ago helped lose some weight and overall improved muscle, etc. After about six months or so of six miles a day commuting lower back pain pretty much went away which surprised me. I do way less mileage last 4 or so years so am currently less fit but back benefits have stayed. This is flat city riding but on rigid MTB ( a sweet old '89 Nishiki Alien) that can survive slight potholes/etc of notoriously crappy Houston streets, though I've picked up a fair bit of elbow/hand/leg 'road rash' in the process :^) Still fun - mental boost/hair(grey!)in-wind.

And never got to the L stage either - the joke was/is MAMIL - for Middle Aged Men In Lycra. Not knocking it as such but I'm certain I'd look ridiculous. Yep, absolutely sure of it. :^)

A weird crave I get is blue cheese - just by itself, then maybe won't eat it for months. Or a 'shot' of maple syrup, straight.

Rick " fabric stick-on bandages are tops " Jones

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The biggest drawback
Nov 3, 2018 1:17AM PDT

for me is the fact that during the 'dirt digging' months of the year, my house inside looks like I'm a hoarder as things get put down anywhere I can find a clear spot (counter, floors, chairs, etc) and my windowseat is used as my 'dresser' as I wash and wear the same clothes until they are rags to be now cut up and used to wash walls or windows. I hate when people come here during that time period because I feel compelled to stop what I love doing and 'clean' for THEM and not me. My late fall, winter, and early spring crap weather are the times I actually clear out the mess I've accumulated and get it back to looking livable and can again see a countertop and shake my head over all the vacuum bags that are filled with dog hair that isn't even noticed by me until then. Then the cycle starts all over again. I'm happy.....company, probably not so much and I cringe to think they might be contemplating having me hospitalized for dementia or some such. LOL You would think that after so many years, some of my kids would finally realize that their mother would rather shovel hog crap (which I've done) than worry about loading the dishwasher regularly. I'd love to watch them actually hand shovel into a trailer pulled by a riding mower and move over 20 tons of dirt and dump it somewhere else at 65 yrs of age (did that twice in one year) ALONE. Now I have a mini farm tractor with a backhoe and loader on it to do that for me easier....with a brushhog, log splitter, box blade, snow scraper, and tiller as accessories. I don't have the strength to disconnect and connect the PTO items so a neighbor or Derek if he's here does it for me (but then if Derek is here, Derek does the work, too LOL). My next project......kind of a barn raising. We have a very small REALLY old shed that used to be used by former owners as a barn/shelter for sheep so it's not very tall and the front end fell off years ago. Time to expand and fix it up so many of the accessories can be stored back there instead of in the main 20X24 three sided 'carport' I had built last year that is supposed to only house the tractor and my truck....but I can't get my truck in there yet. 30 years with no shelter for my truck....and still can't. LOL

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block and tackle
Nov 3, 2018 1:16PM PDT
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you might prefer
Nov 3, 2018 1:23PM PDT
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Be careful. Some of those tools shouldn't be used for
Nov 3, 2018 1:50PM PDT

live loads. Read instructions.

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Fit?
Nov 3, 2018 9:04PM PDT

We hate you!

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I gave these up
Nov 3, 2018 1:45PM PDT
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I like
Nov 3, 2018 2:03PM PDT

sardines in dill sauce with crackers.

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I bet you grow a few inches when you go out in the sun.
Nov 3, 2018 2:30PM PDT

I've cut back on tuna because of mercury. Watched the news the other day and plastic has now entered the human food chain.
Dafydd.

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Maybe if we eat enough plastic,
Nov 3, 2018 2:35PM PDT

the future humans will be water resistant Mischief

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And not need plastic surgery?
Nov 3, 2018 2:40PM PDT

On the other hand, we could join the plastic ono band.
Dafydd.

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(NT) LOL! Another score.
Nov 3, 2018 9:05PM PDT
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No surgery
Nov 4, 2018 6:27AM PST

But they might take a lot of aspirin as every time the temperature rises , it goes right to their heads .