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Could you evaluate this tip?

May 15, 2007 2:35AM PDT

It's suppose to be a tip for gamers.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management

1.Disable Paging Executive -double click it and in the decimal put a 1 - this allows XP to keep data in memory now instead of paging sections of ram to harddrive yeilds faster performance.

2.Large System Cache- double click it and change the decimal to 1 -this allows XP Kernal to Run in memory and improves system performance a lot.

3.Create a new dword and name it IOPageLockLimit - double click it and set the value in hex - 4000 if you have 128MB of ram or set it to 10000 if you have 256MB set it to 40000 if you have more than 512MB of ram -this tweak will speed up your disckcache.

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Widely written about.
May 15, 2007 2:45AM PDT
http://www.petri.co.il/pagefile_optimization.htm for example. But I've found it to not pay off. Why not try it and see if it helps you? You can alway put it back.

Why it doesn't help? With sufficient RAM Windows barely touches the swap file. So any tweak ends up unused.

Bob
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I think I may have enough RAM
May 15, 2007 3:01AM PDT

But it is only 256 MB on this laptop. Maybe I should just get more RAM.

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Not so useful
May 15, 2007 3:15AM PDT

Put rather simply, there are good reasons why those settings were the way they were before someone decided to go messing with them.

The page file is only really used when there isn't sufficient RAM, and disabling it could lead to problems down the road.

The second tip seems rather pointless. The Windows kernel is always in memory. Any modern operating system does this already. This is the central nervous system of the entire operating system, you always want to have ready access to it. Some operating systems, like Linux, will let programs preempt the kernel which can improve latency times, but the kernel is ALWAYS going to be in memory.

The third tip... Disk cache is horrendously slow no matter what you do. You're not going to see any worthwhile gain from messing around with disk caches. You'd be better off loading your system up with RAM so that the disk is needed less and less. And on that note, there's still a lot of outdated information floating about regarding how more than 512MB of RAM can slow your system down because it can't be properly cached. Unless we're talking about an original Pentium class system, this information doesn't apply. It was also based on a misunderstanding of the technical details. Uncached RAM is still going to be many hundreds of times faster than the alternative of using a swap/page file. By slower, it means that it might take a few extra nanoseconds for the computer to find the information it wants.

There's really little to be gained by any of these tweaks. You'd be far better off getting a faster CPU, more RAM, and a faster video card if you want to improve game performance. Most of the remaining performance bottlenecks have to do with the transport methods for getting data from one part of the computer to the other. Going from the hard drive to RAM, or vise versa, is the slowest link in the chain by far. You can't do anything about it, it's a hard coded limit. Next up is the RAM, which usually communicates at about a quarter the speed of the CPU. You can tinker with this on some systems, but it often leads to system instability.

The long and short of it is this: Any person or site that claims to offer significant gaming performance improvements via seemingly simple little alterations is most likely full of it, or vastly overstating the gains you'll experience. There is simply no software substitute for not having the proper hardware.

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So I have to decide what to replace
May 15, 2007 4:10AM PDT

CPU 1.496 MGh
RAM 240 so I guess 16 of the 256 is used by Video.

I couldn't find much information about anything else, such as what the Video has, or how fast the HD is.

If you picked one thing to change, which one would you pick?

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Hard to say
May 15, 2007 5:25AM PDT

You have an integrated video chipset, which will never be worthwhile for gaming... And at the same time, 256MB of RAM is barely enough to run XP well, let alone anything else.

If I had only one thing to change, I would say to change your idea of using this system for gaming. For that, you'd need both a new video card and more RAM. If you give up on the gaming idea, some more RAM would see a marked improvement in overall performance.

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Thanks!
May 15, 2007 9:16AM PDT

My wife has been talking about getting a new computer -- hers is a little bit older but has almost the same hardware as the newer laptop. The CPU is slightly bigger but not enough to make a difference. I think we'll take a look at upgrading both computers--maybe not just RAM, either.

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Some suggestions
Jun 27, 2007 9:46PM PDT

I've recently made some hardware changes to my system:

Added a second GB of RAM, Kingston
Added a graphics card, eGeForce 8600 GT SLI

The RAM helped a great deal. We were continually running down our RAM and had a number of system problems because of it. Prior to getting the RAM we installed something called a RAM optimizer. This little utility really works and keeps the RAM more fully recovered. There are many of these tools available but the best one we've found is "FreeRAM XP Pro", it's freeware and is available from Cnet. We still use it but it isn't as effective with two gigs of RAM.

The Graphics card did little good but I'm not a gamer. We bought it to improve video performance. It has helped the video some.

Also we became aware that our CPU was overheating so we installed "SpeedFan" software. This little freeware program overrides the automatic controls of the computer and allows you to run your fans at 100% during heavy loads like maintenance, anti-virus scans, gaming programs. We also just tonight replaced our CPU cooler with a new one that is quieter and a better performer. To check your CPU temperature you can also download "PC Wizard" this is a free system overview software package that will tell you more fully what's inside your computer.

Check out some of the overclockers sites those guy's are in a league of they're own. They'll give you some idea of what you'll need to do to get your computer, game ready. Some of their systems cost over $5,000.00, that's some serious money for gaming.

As I said I'm not a gamer but I like to have my computer running well.

My computer config. is:
OS, XP Professional SP2
Compaq Presario sr2050nx computer
820 Pentium D, CPU
250 GB Hard Drive
connection, 650kbps DSL service
eGeForce 8600 GT SLI, graphics card
2 GB kingston, RAM
Security/maintenance/optimizer software, System Mechanic 7 by Iolo

And it runs very well.