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Conservatives ask FBI to investigate hotel porn

by Mark5019 / August 22, 2006 11:45 PM PDT

NEW YORK (AP) -- Pornographic movies now seem nearly as pervasive in America's hotel rooms as tiny shampoo bottles, and the lodging industry shows little concern as conservative activists rev up a protest campaign aimed at triggering a federal crackdown.

A coalition of 13 conservative groups -- including the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America -- took out full-page ads in some editions of USA Today earlier this month urging the Justice Department and FBI to investigate whether some of the pay-per-view movies widely available in hotels violate federal and state obscenity laws.

The coalition also is trying to draw attention to CleanHotels.com, a directory of hotels and motels nationwide that pledge to exclude adult offerings from their in-room entertainment service


now the last time i stayed in a holtel, no one twisted my arm to pay to watch porn.

and i think the FBI has better things to watch like possible terriosts attacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/22/hotel.porn.ap/index.html

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You're right. You have to go to some
by drpruner / August 23, 2006 3:00 AM PDT

effort, and spend money, to watch the stuff in a hotel. However, I noticed that the preview pictures and descriptions, available to all, would offend many families. Perhaps that would be something these people could address.

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ok thats a good point
by Mark5019 / August 23, 2006 3:02 AM PDT

wheres the remote:)

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(NT) (NT) >chuckle<
by drpruner / August 23, 2006 3:09 AM PDT
In reply to: ok thats a good point
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Some effort?
by Evie / August 23, 2006 3:10 AM PDT

Well, I've never gotten PPV porn in a hotel room, but I have gotten PPV movies in hotel rooms that also have porn offerings. Usually all that involved was selecting a movie from the menu and either pressing ''Yes'' once or twice to confirm that it would be charged to the room, or doing so after watching a preview. The preview is free. If a kid orders porn, they may well have to answer to their parents later when the bill is settled, but the damage such as it is will have been done.

I've also been in hotel rooms (not talking motels frequented by truck drivers here) where the porn stations are ''scrambled'' but I've caught an eyefull flicking through the channels and the sound is not scrambled. It's been a while since I've encountered that -- maybe it's mostly been changed to a PPV thing -- but I can imagine that with kids that's not an ideal situation!

Not sure we need the FBI on this, however. But the objection is not radical either, IMO.

Evie Happy

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FBI is certainly overkill.
by drpruner / August 23, 2006 3:14 AM PDT
In reply to: Some effort?

The last time I stayed in a hotel, one needed the credit card number at the time of selection. The kid wouldn't have that. If it's automatic billing, then there is indeed a problem. Best solution is the parents.

Just remembered: Can't the parents specify "no porn" at checkin?

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Yes, parents have the ultimate responsibility ...
by Evie / August 23, 2006 3:30 AM PDT

... but somehow the notion that it's just one more unwanted (by many) thing that parents have to presume may be foisted upon their kids is disconcerting.

Like I said, it seems most of this has gone to PPV, but often there is no channel menu to be found in the room so I would just click through the channels. Porn stations would be scrambled just like HBO and the like on the dial. Should a parent have to watch the kids 24/7 so they don't even flick through the stations? I suppose, but really, I had more conscientious parents than most, and I don't recall when we stayed in hotels my folks having to prevent us from flicking through the available TV stations. Often when parents travel with kids they get a two room suite with the kids sleeping in the "living room" area where there is a TV.

Also, in an effort to protect the privacy of the porn consumers, the PPV offerings are often offered in the equivalent of the ''brown paper wrapping''. The movie title is not on the bill, or in the hotel info brochure such offerings are accompanied with assurances that purchasing such will be handled discreetly. We wouldn't want to embarrass those interested in viewing porn with having to REQUEST their availability after all. Better to give the parents one more thing to worry about to protect their kids I guess. I think this is what the "conservatives" object to. If it's really no big deal, why not have the adults that want to watch the porn act like adults and request it.

Evie Happy

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I understand your point. However, the parents can preempt
by Kiddpeat / August 23, 2006 3:40 AM PDT

actual viewing by calling the front desk and telling them to disable the option. By doing that, they can make a statement to the hotel. Not that I think the hotel pays much attention, but it can't hurt.

Sad

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I see your point as well ...
by Evie / August 23, 2006 4:01 AM PDT

... just think that hotels (and advertisers, and TV program execs, etc.) could sometimes consider doing more to HELP parents rather than undermine them.

I often wonder how many people staying at the hotels actually use the PPV porn. My guess is that except for the motels advertising "free adult movies" on the marquee, it's not a large percentage of the hotel guests. Do the hotels really make that much on this stuff that making it jsut a little more difficult to activate such programming would cut down that much on profits??

Evie Happy

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From what I've heard guys say, many have real trouble
by Kiddpeat / August 23, 2006 4:12 AM PDT

resisting this. They don't want that known, but succumb more frequently than they like. That's where the money is made, and the need for a call to the front desk would stop the temptation. If they are with someone, like family, there is no temptation.

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Not true at all. Pay movies in hotels usually require only
by Kiddpeat / August 23, 2006 3:35 AM PDT

that you select the movie, and watch it long enough.

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(NT) (NT) Not good. :-(
by drpruner / August 23, 2006 3:47 AM PDT
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It's interesting. I've seen such offerings many times at
by Kiddpeat / August 23, 2006 3:18 AM PDT
In reply to: Some effort?

Marriots (owned by Mormons), but never at places like Holiday Inn, Comfort Inn, Hampton Inn, Motel 6, etc. (just came back from vacation). I've periodically wondered about that anomaly.

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(NT) (NT) Stay at better hotels !
by duckman / August 23, 2006 3:51 AM PDT
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Umm...
by Evie / August 23, 2006 4:07 AM PDT

... we tend to stay in Marriot Courtyards, Hampton Inns, the Comfort Suites and an occasional Radisson, which are all pretty nice hotels for relatively reasonable price. Also hotels where I see a lot of families around.

Evie Happy

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